Linux Visibility on Microsoft Network
Mugleston, Brad
brad.mugleston at retirementpartner.com
Thu Apr 8 21:37:28 UTC 2004
Sure thing - you said you were in IT - how long did it take you to learn what you know? I'm almost as old as you, it's going to take longer than you want it to take but it can be done and once it starts to click it moves right along.
You have a great Easter too.
Brad
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[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Wesa,
Richard (GE Consumer & Industrial)
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:27 PM
To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
Subject: RE: Linux Visibility on Microsoft Network
Thanks for your insight Brad.
I'll think about it over Easter.
Happy holiday..
Richard
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[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Mugleston,
Brad
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:25 PM
To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
Subject: RE: Linux Visibility on Microsoft Network
Richard,
I've been watching this thread and re-living what your going through (although not on as large a scale). Your trying to accomplish in a week or so that takes regular people years to learn.
I started with one computer running Linux - got it running, dialing the phone and doing email and surfing the web - was it easy? Then no, but I learned how Linux worked - sitting next to a Win95 machine Linux could run circles around Windows -for the things I knew how to do.
Then I networked the two machines together - just to share one modem - A simple masquerade - with the help from this list I was able to get it to work, got the modem set up so either machine could just access the web and it would start the dial out process. Added to that so that just before I got home from work my Linux box would dial out and get my email and down load it so I could read it when I got home. It was great.
Then I had the need (desire) to have the two machines share hard drives. Samba became my best friend/enemy then I changed one thing and it worked.
Now my house is wired - 8+ computers all sharing drives and email. Running Win95 and Win98 and Red Hat 9. Was it easy, not really but it works great.
Do I do this for a living - not even close.
I guess what I'm saying is slow down, doing what you want to do isn't plug and play - even Windows to Windows machines - that's why you have a large support staff working full time just keeping things working. One thing you will find once you get away from Windows - Linux seems to be more stable (just don't upgrade it every time a new version comes out - you wouldn't do it if it weren't free so don't do it if what you have is working).
Anyway, let Rick help you and you will be surprised at what you will be able to do ONCE you figure out what Rick did.
Brad
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[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rick Stevens
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:45 PM
To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
Subject: Re: Linux Visibility on Microsoft Network
Wesa, Richard (GE Consumer & Industrial) wrote:
> I would like to thank everyone who has given me their time to provide help with this problem.
> I am 59 years old and have only so much time left. I am not going to spend the rest of my life
> trying to make a Linux Server work on a Microsoft network. It's not worth it.
> I'll suffer with (Bill Gates) until my time is done.
> Thanks again for trying.
Richard,
It shouldn't take that long. It's very difficult to debug this stuff
remotely--especially with someone that's new to Linux. You are dealing
with two very disparate systems and getting them to talk and share files
isn't really difficult IF you understand the differences and what you
want to do.
I can probably set up exactly what you want by configuring it here and
sending you the files needed (smb.conf, smbpasswd, etc.) to make it work
for you. I'll need several items:
1. The Windows domain you want the server to join
2. The security model (user-based or share-based)
3. The name of the Windows domain controller if you want user security
4. What you want to do:
a) All Windows users see the same directory on Linux
b) Each Windows user gets their own directory on Linux
You may want to send me this info off-list. Just email it directly to
me at rstevens at vitalstream.com and I'll see what I can do.
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> [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rick Stevens
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:55 PM
> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux
> Subject: Re: Linux Visibility on Microsoft Network
>
>
> Wesa, Richard (GE Consumer & Industrial) wrote:
>
>>Bob,
>>Thank you. I was able to load swat.
>>In the file I changed "disable = no" and added:
>>"kill -HUP `pidof xinetd`" to the file.
>
>
> NO! Take that out of the file! That was just a command to make xinetd
> see the change in the file. /etc/xinetd.d/swat should read (after your
> changes):
> ------------------------ CUT HERE -----------------------------------
> # default: off
> # description: SWAT is the Samba Web Admin Tool. Use swat \
> # to configure your Samba server. To use SWAT, \
> # connect to port 901 with your favorite web browser.
> service swat
> {
> disable = no
> port = 901
> socket_type = stream
> wait = no
> only_from = 127.0.0.1
> user = root
> server = /usr/sbin/swat
> log_on_failure += USERID
> }
> ----------------------- CUT HERE -------------------------------------
> You enter the command
>
> kill -HUP `pidof xinetd`
>
> at the "#" command prompt to make xinetd see the modified file. Sorry I
> didn't make that clearer.
>
> Now, if that's done, you should be able to bring up your browser and
> hit "http://localhost:901" and see the swat login screen. Log in as the
> root user and start modifying configuring your stuff.
>
>
>>I changed the [homes] section in the smb.conf as Rick suggested.
>>I still cannot see any resources on the server but the server is listed in "Network Neighborhood".
>
>
> Any change to smb.conf must be followed by restarting both the nmbd and
> smbd daemons. You can do that by entering:
>
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/samba restart
>
> at the "#" command prompt. If you make these changes via swat's
> "shares" screen, you must also tell swat to restart the daemons by going
> to swat's "Status" screen and clicking on the "Restart nmbd" and
> "Restart smbd" buttons.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com -
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