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>    1. Re: OT:Apache question (Rick Stevens)
>    2. Re: OT:Apache question
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>    3. Re: OT:Apache question (Mark Knecht)
>    4. Re: OT:Apache question (Mark Knecht)
>    5. Re: Ntp Client (Bruce McDonald)
>    6. Re: OT:Apache question
(=?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?=)
>    7. Re: OT:Apache question (Mark Knecht)
>    8. Re: OT:Apache question (Rick Stevens)
>    9. How to install Fedora along with SuSE9.0? (hai wu)
>   10. installing developer package in linux 8.0 (the one containing gcc,
>        etc.) (Francesco Lama)
>   11. What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof WS???
(Chris A Czerwinski)
>   12. Re: installing developer package in linux 8.0 (the one containing
gcc, etc.) (=?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?=)
>   13. Re: samba error: Failed to setup RT_SIGNAL_LEASE handler (Jim
Hayward)
>   14. Re: How to install Fedora along with SuSE9.0? (Jim Hayward)
>   15. Re: OT:Apache question (Rick Stevens)
>   16. Re: How to install Fedora along with SuSE9.0? (Rick Stevens)
>   17. Re: samba error: Failed to setup RT_SIGNAL_LEASE handler (Rody)
>   18. Re: installing developer package in linux 8.0 (the one containing
>        gcc, etc.) (Rick Stevens)
>   19. Re: What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof WS???
(Rick Stevens)
>   20. Question for admin of the list ... (Bassam ALHUSSEIN)
>   21. Re: What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof WS???
(Chris A Czerwinski)
>   22. Re: Question for admin of the list ... (Rick Stevens)
>   23. Re: samba error: Failed to setup RT_SIGNAL_LEASE handler (Jim
Hayward)
>   24. Re: How to install Fedora along with SuSE9.0? (Jim Hayward)
>   25. Re: What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof WS???
(Rick Stevens)
>   26. Re: OT:Apache question (Mark Knecht)
>   27. Re: What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof WS???
(Jim Hayward)
>   28. Re: OT:Apache question (Rick Stevens)
>   29. R:Re: vncserver startup at boot (Stewart Walker)
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> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:32:04 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > This is very off topic for a RH Install list, so please excuse me.
> >
> > I'm determined not to become an Apache administrator in my home
> > recording studio here, but I do have Apache running. All I want is a
> > simple page that shows a list of file names when someone shows up at a
> > specific address at my web address.
> >
> > http://marksmusic.blah.blah
> >
> > does resolve as a web page. How can I make
> >
> > http://marksmusic.blah.blah/files
> >
> > simply show all the files in a specific directory on this machine?
> > Everything I try leads to messages about 'You don't have permission to
> > access /files/ on this server' type messages.
> >
> > Most welcome would be some great little simple web page with a few
> > instructions.
>
> Why not get into your apache config file and do something like this:
>
>      Alias /files "/directory/where/the/files/are"
>
>
>      <Directory "/directory/where/the/files/are">
>          Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
>          AllowOverride None
>          Order allow,deny
>          Allow from all
>      </Directory>
>
> Stop and restart Apache after changing the file.  Aiming your browser
> at "http://www.your.site/files" will result in an index listing of the
> "/directory/where/the/files/are" directory.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -                 All generalizations are false.                     -
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> From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?=
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> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
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> Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > This is very off topic for a RH Install list, so please excuse me.
> >
> > I'm determined not to become an Apache administrator in my home
> > recording studio here, but I do have Apache running. All I want is a
> > simple page that shows a list of file names when someone shows up at a
> > specific address at my web address.
> >
> > http://marksmusic.blah.blah
> >
> > does resolve as a web page. How can I make
> >
> > http://marksmusic.blah.blah/files
> >
> > simply show all the files in a specific directory on this machine?
> > Everything I try leads to messages about 'You don't have permission to
> > access /files/ on this server' type messages.
> >
> > Most welcome would be some great little simple web page with a few
> > instructions.
>
> Why not get into your apache config file and do something like this:
>
> Alias /files "/directory/where/the/files/are"
>
>
>
> Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
> AllowOverride None
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
>
>
> Stop and restart Apache after changing the file. Aiming your browser
> at "http://www.your.site/files" will result in an index listing of the
> "/directory/where/the/files/are" directory.
>
>
> You also can try (as root) the apacheconf and look at all the options
aviable.
>
> Cheers
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com -
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> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com></I></B>
wrote:
> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">
> <P>Mark Knecht wrote:<BR>> This is very off topic for a RH Install
list, so please excuse me. <BR>> <BR>> I'm determined not to become an
Apache administrator in my home<BR>> recording studio here, but I do have
Apache running. All I want is a<BR>> simple page that shows a list of
file names when someone shows up at a<BR>> specific address at my web
address. <BR>> <BR>> http://marksmusic.blah.blah<BR>> <BR>> does
resolve as a web page. How can I make <BR>> <BR>>
http://marksmusic.blah.blah/files <BR>> <BR>> simply show all the
files in a specific directory on this machine?<BR>> Everything I try
leads to messages about 'You don't have permission to<BR>> access /files/
on this server' type messages.<BR>> <BR>> Most welcome would be some
great little simple web page with a few<BR>> instructions.<BR><BR>Why not
get into your apache config file and do something like this:<BR><BR>Alias
/files
>  "/directory/where/the/files/are"<BR><BR><BR><DIRECTORY ? are? files the
where directory><BR>Options Indexes FollowSymlinks
MultiViews<BR>AllowOverride None<BR>Order allow,deny<BR>Allow from
all<BR></DIRECTORY><BR><BR>Stop and restart Apache after changing the file.
Aiming your browser<BR>at "http://www.your.site/files" will result in an
index listing of the<BR>"/directory/where/the/files/are" directory.<BR></P>
> <P>You also can try (as root) the apacheconf and look at all the options
aviable.</P>
> <P>Cheers</P>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:18:50 -0800
> From: Mark Knecht <mknecht at controlnet.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Greg Julius wrote:
>
> >
> > Mark, I'm no great expert on Apache so I hope others will chime in with
> > ideas.
> >
> > An alert box you say?  Or a web-page with that message?  What browser
> > are you using?
>
> I'm using Mozilla and IE5 under Wine. IE5 just says the page cannot be
> displayed. Mozilla gives the alert.
>
> An 'Alert' box. Try it yourself:
>
> Works:
>
> http://marksmusic.myvnc.com
>
> Fails with Alert:
>
> http://marksmusic.myvnc.com/files
>
>
> If it matters (and it might) there are two things I can think of that I
did:
>
> 1) I have NEVER known what to put in my hosts files on my home network,
> so this is what I currently have:
>
>
> # /etc/hosts:  This file describes a number of hostname-to-address
> #              mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem.  It is mostly
> #              used at boot time, when no name servers are running.
> #              On small systems, this file can be used instead of a
> #              "named" name server.  Just add the names, addresses
> #              and any aliases to this file...
> #
>
> 127.0.0.1       localhost
> 192.168.1.26    Wizard.knechthome.com   Wizard
> # IPV6 versions of localhost and co
> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
>
> The Alert box message replicates the name for 192.168.1.26,
> Wizard.knechthome.com
>
> 2) Low probability but I'm using no-ip to set up this DNS record. I do
> not own myvnc.com. It's a free service. Maybe there's somethign weird
> about using services like this? (I doubt it.)
>
>
> >
> > Is the above website address supposed to be visible to the internet at
> > large, or just within your own network?
>
> Yes. Try it yourself.
> >
> > -g
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:21:45 -0800
> From: Mark Knecht <mknecht at controlnet.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Rick Stevens wrote:
> >
> > Why not get into your apache config file and do something like this:
> >
> >     Alias /files "/directory/where/the/files/are"
> >
> >
> >     <Directory "/directory/where/the/files/are">
> >         Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
> >         AllowOverride None
> >         Order allow,deny
> >         Allow from all
> >     </Directory>
> >
> > Stop and restart Apache after changing the file.  Aiming your browser
> > at "http://www.your.site/files" will result in an index listing of the
> > "/directory/where/the/files/are" directory.
>
> Rick,
>     Starting to make the changes now. Thanks.
>
>     One question. What permissions need to be on the
> "directory/where/the/files/are" ?? I want them to be bother
> readable/streamable and also copiable if someone right clicks and wants
> to save them.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
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> Message: 5
> From: Bruce McDonald <brucemcdonal at mindspring.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:23:22 -0800
> Subject: Re: Ntp Client
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Hello Bruce
>
> On 19-Feb-04, you wrote:
>
> > Hello Rick
>
> > On 19-Feb-04, you wrote:
>
> >> Bruce McDonald wrote:
> >>> <Big Snip>
> >>>
> >>> Rick's imparted knowledge:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Ok, let's try something simple.  Try:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>    tcpdump port 123
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> in one window, then stop and restart xntpd.  Verify that you
actually
> >>>>> see traffic.  If not, you might try turning off iptables and trying
> >>>>> again.  If it works the second time, look higher up in your iptables
> >>>>> to see if you have a block before your "--dport 123 -j ACCEPT"
lines.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Due to the way PPPoE works with DSL, I needed to type tcpdump -i PPP0
> >>>> port 123
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Rick, you once again caused me to think in the right direction
> >>>> to find where a problem lies.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Now I can see traffic. And the clock is correct, so I guess I will
let
> >>>> it run and see if it drifts by a significant amount in the next
couple
> >>>> of days. Interestingly, the drift file says 0.00; I find that hard to
> >>>> believe. I think I'll have to delete it and restart ntpd to
recalculate
> >>>> the drift.
>
>
> >>> Whoops, I forgot to give any of the tcpdump info.  Here is a snippet:
>
> >>> 15:58:17.313929 my.assigned.ip.ntp > 204.34.198.40.ntp: v4 client
strat
> >>> 0 poll 4 prec -6 (DF)
> >>> 15:58:17.372567 204.34.198.40.ntp > my.assigned.ip.ntp: v4 server
strat
> >>> 1 poll 4 prec -19 (DF)
> >>> 15:58:18.313660 my.assigned.ip.ntp > 204.34.198.40.ntp: v4 client
strat
> >>> 0 poll 4 prec -6 (DF)
> >>> 15:58:18.371575 204.34.198.40.ntp > my.assigned.ip.ntp: v4 server
strat
> >>> 1 poll 4 prec -19 (DF)
> >>> 15:58:30.413835 my.assigned.ip.ntp > 63.247.194.250.ntp: v4 client
strat
> >>> 0 poll 6 prec -16 (DF) [tos 0x10] 15:58:30.477898 63.247.194.250.ntp >
> >>> my.assigned.ip.ntp: v4 server strat 2 poll 6 prec -17 (DF)
>
> >>> Also, when I restarted ntpd it read:
>
> >>> Shutting down ntpd: [ OK ] ntpd: Synchronizing with time server:
> >>> [FAILED] Starting ntpd: [ OK ]
>
> >>> I hope the failed is not an evil omen.
>
> >> Uh, I don't think so.  The standard RH9 ntpd stop/start script buggers
> >> the firewall if it was configured by Lokkit before it shuts down the
> >> ntpd server.  So, since ntpd tries to sync the clock one last time
> >> before it goes bye-bye, the hole in the firewall gets closed before it
> >> can and voila!  Error message!
>
> > I think I banished the Lokkit rules, or at least supplanted them. I
forget
> > since I did that so long ago now. Not sure where the Lokkit rules
> > live/lived to check that they won't bother me. I do start my own
personal
> > set of rule whenever I bring up the DSL.
>
> >> And I'm not fond of the script's check as to whether the firewall was
> >> set up (part of /etc/rc.d/init.d/ntpd):
>
> >> # Is there a firewall running, and does it look like one we configured?
> >> FWACTIVE=''
> >> if iptables -L -n 2>/dev/null | grep -q RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT ; then
> >>     FWACTIVE=1
> >> fi
>
> > I don't see the words RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT in the output of iptables -L.
>
> >> Something in there doesn't track right.  "grep -q" will return 0 if
> >> a match is found, which seems opposite of what's intended.
>
> >> Oh, well, it's been a long day and I'm a bit fuzzy.  I'm probably
> >> missing something simple.  Must have the 4th major food group for
> >> nerds:
>
> >>     1. Twinkies
> > Don't have any.
> >>     2. Kung Pao Chicken (or anything hot and spicy)
> > Mmmmmm.
> >>     3. Microwave Popcorn
> > I pop it the hard way.
> >>     4. Caffeine <----- Yeah!
> > Not since this morning.
>
> > Oh,  the clock is now 2 seconds ahead, and the rewritten drift file once
> > again says 0.00; it will be interesting to see how the clock is
tomorrow.
>
>
> It doesn't look good...  I just checked the clock and it is now 10 seconds
> fast.
>
> Rick, you didn't mention anything about the info in the tcpdump snippet
> earlier in the message; I assume that means it is fine.  To me it looks
> like packets are sent and received, but I won't guarantee that I am
reading
> it right.
>
> I still am in a quandry as to why no servers listed have a + or a * in
front
> of them when I issue the ntpq -p command.  As I understand it, only
servers
> with a + are being used, and the one with an * is the primary.  Is that
> correct?
>
> I deleted the drift file before restarting ntpd, since the info I found on
> it states that it will go into a special mode to find the drift before
> settling down to normal operation if the drift file does not exist.  Of
> course, all this seems to have gotten me is a new drift file that say no
> drift when I obviously can see the clock drifting.
>
> The only time I saw the drift file read something other than 0.00 was the
> one time I used Set Time & Date under Gnome, unfortunatly I didn't write
it
> down; but it did have the number 8 in one of the places.  So I know that
> deep down, somewhere... it actually works.
>
>
> Regards,
> Bruce McDonald
>
> "Get the Gremlin gun, its time to go hunting."
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:26:42 +0100 (CET)
> From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?=
<manuaroste at yahoo.es>
> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
>  --- Mark Knecht <mknecht at controlnet.com> escribió: >
> Rick Stevens wrote:
> > >
> > > Why not get into your apache config file and do
> > something like this:
> > >
> > >     Alias /files "/directory/where/the/files/are"
> > >
> > >
> > >     <Directory "/directory/where/the/files/are">
> > >         Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
> > >         AllowOverride None
> > >         Order allow,deny
> > >         Allow from all
> > >     </Directory>
> > >
> > > Stop and restart Apache after changing the file.
> > Aiming your browser
> > > at "http://www.your.site/files" will result in an
> > index listing of the
> > > "/directory/where/the/files/are" directory.
> >
> > Rick,
> >     Starting to make the changes now. Thanks.
> >
> >     One question. What permissions need to be on the
> >
> > "directory/where/the/files/are" ?? I want them to be
> > bother
> > readable/streamable and also copiable if someone
> > right clicks and wants
> > to save them.
> >
>
> -rwxr-xr-x maybe work
> Cheers
>
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:08:01 -0800
> From: Mark Knecht <mknecht at controlnet.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Rick Stevens wrote:
>
> > Why not get into your apache config file and do something like this:
>
> Rick - I still get the Alert box nonsense with www.knechthome.com in it.
> I think this is the real issue. Why does Apache look at my hosts file
> and choose to use this info?
>
> OK, so the first question that came up was which apache config file? I
> find two directories
>
> /etc/apache/conf
> /etc/apache2/conf/
>
> The second has an apache2.conf file in which I placed your edits at the
end:
>
> Alias /files "/mnt/data/sessions"
>
>
>      <Directory "/mnt/data/sessions">
>              Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
>              AllowOverride None
>              Order allow,deny
>              Allow from all
>      </Directory>
>
> Is this the right file?
>
>
> >
> > Stop and restart Apache after changing the file.
>
> Did this. /var/log/apache2/error_log shows the restart.
>
> /var/log/apache2/access_log shows me going to the top page
> (marksmusic.myvnc.com)
>
> 63.146.68.30 - - [20/Feb/2004:11:02:39 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 304 - "-"
> "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040217"
>
>
> Aiming your browser
> > at "http://www.your.site/files" will result in an index listing of the
> > "/directory/where/the/files/are" directory.
>
> However, when I try to access the files page it shows it failing with a
> 301 error I think.
>
> 301 == "Moved Permanently"?
>
> 63.146.68.30 - - [20/Feb/2004:11:05:00 -0800] "GET /files HTTP/1.1" 301
> 338 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040217"
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:15:45 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Rick Stevens wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Why not get into your apache config file and do something like this:
> >>
> >>     Alias /files "/directory/where/the/files/are"
> >>
> >>
> >>     <Directory "/directory/where/the/files/are">
> >>         Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
> >>         AllowOverride None
> >>         Order allow,deny
> >>         Allow from all
> >>     </Directory>
> >>
> >> Stop and restart Apache after changing the file.  Aiming your browser
> >> at "http://www.your.site/files" will result in an index listing of the
> >> "/directory/where/the/files/are" directory.
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> >    Starting to make the changes now. Thanks.
> >
> >    One question. What permissions need to be on the
> > "directory/where/the/files/are" ?? I want them to be bother
> > readable/streamable and also copiable if someone right clicks and wants
> > to save them.
>
> The directory must be readable and executable by the Apache process
> (typically "nobody" but check the "User" and "Group" directives in
> httpd.conf).  The files themselves must be readable by Apache.
>
> If you want to set the permissions for that directory AND everything
> below:
>
> chmod o+rx /directory/where/the/files/are
> cd /directory/where/the/files/are
> find . -type d -exec chmod o+rx \{\} \;
> find . -type f -exec chmod o+r \{\} \;
>
> This would chmod all _directories_ below /directory/where/the/files/are
> to "other: read execute" and all files to "other: read".
>
> Hope that helps ("find" is a VERY useful tool, BTW).
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:19:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: hai wu <it400fs at yahoo.com>
> Subject: How to install Fedora along with SuSE9.0?
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Hi everybody:
>
> My PC has Windows 2k and SuSE9.0 installed. The two OS
> are booted by the GRUB that comes with SuSE9.0.
> Is there any way to install Fedora without mess my
> current GRUB and add the Fedora kernel line into GRUB
> so that Fedora could boot from the GRUB?
>
> Thanks
>
> Hai
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Subject: installing developer package in linux 8.0 (the one containing
gcc,
> etc.)
> From: Francesco Lama <f.lama at ntlworld.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Date: 20 Feb 2004 19:52:24 +0000
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> I installed my rh linux 8.0 some time ago, and have been happily using
> it since, but I have recently acquired some software which requires
> compiling by gcc. I have run rpm to attempt to install the package
> containing it from the CDs I originally bought, as suggested by rpm, but
> it complains about not finding the right versions of openssl, openldap,
> cyrus-sasl, glibc, and krb5-libs. This makes sense, because I have been
> updating my system regularly, using rh update agent, so I have the
> latest versions of all installed packages in my system.
> How can I now install the developer package, without going back to using
> the earlier versions of all my installed packages?
> Can I download the latest versions of the developer packages, free of
> charge from anywhere?
> Can I update the versions of the files on the developer package by some
> means.
> What do you advise?
> Francesco Lama.
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Subject: What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof WS???
> From: Chris A Czerwinski <chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Organization:
> Date: 20 Feb 2004 14:53:10 -0500
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> I see Red Hat's current "Under the Brim" is giving a sales pitch...
>
> Red Hat Professional Workstation: Enterprise Linux gets personal
> Want to run an enterprise-quality operating system but don't actually
> have an enterprise? Red Hat has the answer Red Hat Professional
> Workstation. Based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Professional Workstation
> provides a complete suite of tools for the power desktop user at an
> affordable price. Best of all, it's annually renewable and comes with
> one year of Red Hat Network updates and upgrades.
>
> Buy today and get a limited edition Red Hat cap.
>
> Is this still the old version of back then - Date unknown?
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> When I go to their Web Site and look at the various Red Hat Operating
> Systems I am getting confused or more to the point I am looking for
> specifics.
>
> I cannot find which versions of applications come with which operating
> systems or what it now supports i.e what Red Hat Package Management
> (RPM's) will now come with each Operating System (as in previous
> versions!!) (and if it's detailed it's somewhere obscurely hidden from
> us not to see.)
>
>                        RedHat  | RedHat   RedHat  RedHat  RedHat Fedora
>                        Linux 9 | Prof-WS  EL-WS   EL-ES   EL-AS   Core
>
> XFree86                4.3.0   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> BlueCurve                      |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> GNOME                  2.2.0   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> KDE                            |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> Ximian Evolution       1.2.2-5 |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> OpenOffice             1.0.2   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> Mozilla                1.2.1   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> Samba                  2.27    |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> GCC                    3.2     |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> Perl                   5.8.0   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> Python                 2.2     |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> Apache                 2.0     |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> MySQL                  3.23.58 |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> PostgreSQL             7.3.4   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
>
>
> What does this mean? NO MORE Red Hat Package Management (RPM) utility???
>
> Does that mean Red Hat is getting out of this feature and support?
>
> Does it mean that the various Applications now have to prepare their own
> RPM's for RED HAT (also FEDORA) OS's?
>
> And for which version of Red Hat will they prepare and create? for the
> top end? (or RHEL-WS? or RHEL-ES? or RHEL-AS? or RH Prof WS?) or does
> Red Hat have the proper file structure as in other Distributions? Is
> there a common feature for all to follow?
>
> How should I cope with this - or does Red Hat care about us?
>
> Red Hat promoted Linux and helped the users to get Red Hat up and
> running. We followed the American dream and adopted Red Hat and they
> (Red Hat) adopted a lot of new Linuxers and now that they've got
> corporate's attention with their servers and stability does that mean -
> they don't need us (peons) anymore?
>
> Fedora doesn't even have a BASE version for newcomers to adopt or other
> PC'ers to move over to LINUX - FEDORA target is always moving - unlike
> as other Distributions are finding out. Again the question - does Red
> Hat Care?
>
> What is my objective for staying with Red Hat that they are abandoning
> us Newbies or recent Adopters of Linux. Why should I still promote Red
> Hat for their product service now that they have set their sites on the
> Corporate Level?
>
> Sun is coming out with their own DeskTop version (which means there is a
> business need), Novell has come out with their SUSE which will promote
> their Base version (again another pro-business case) and Red Hat isn't
> considering this option and is dropping us and FEDORA is always moving
> forward with no Base version?
>
> I don't understand? We did nothing wrong. We followed.
> (from the movie "A FEW GOOD MEN" - Jack Nicholson, Tome Cruise)
> I want answers. I think I'm entitled.
>
> If I now need to learn another distribution then why should I still care
> about staying and supporting Red Hat. They would have weaned me off and
> there seems other good systems that could benefit from me or for that
> matter I from them. Why do I feel that I have been dropped out of the
> nest and when I look back at Red Hat - Do I see the door closing behind
> me without an answer?
>
> Chris Cz (still learning that there are no answers or...)
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:00:19 +0100 (CET)
> From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manuel=20Ar=F3stegui=20Ramirez?=
<manuaroste at yahoo.es>
> Subject: Re: installing developer package in linux 8.0 (the one containing
gcc, etc.)
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
>  --- Francesco Lama <f.lama at ntlworld.com> escribió: >
> I installed my rh linux 8.0 some time ago, and have
> > been happily using
> > it since, but I have recently acquired some software
> > which requires
> > compiling by gcc. I have run rpm to attempt to
> > install the package
> > containing it from the CDs I originally bought, as
> > suggested by rpm, but
> > it complains about not finding the right versions of
> > openssl, openldap,
> > cyrus-sasl, glibc, and krb5-libs. This makes sense,
> > because I have been
> > updating my system regularly, using rh update agent,
> > so I have the
> > latest versions of all installed packages in my
> > system.
> > How can I now install the developer package, without
> > going back to using
> > the earlier versions of all my installed packages?
> > Can I download the latest versions of the developer
> > packages, free of
> > charge from anywhere?
> > Can I update the versions of the files on the
> > developer package by some
> > means.
> > What do you advise?
> > Francesco Lama.
> >
>
> You can install the apt package and then upgrade your
> system with the latest packages aviable on the
> reposistories, which you need to put in
> /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> Here you are ones for RH 8.0
> rpm http://ayo.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/i386 os
> updates freshrpms
> rpm-src http://ayo.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/i386 os
> updates freshrpms
>
> Cheers
>
>
> >
> >
> >
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> > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com
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>
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> Message: 13
> Subject: Re: samba error: Failed to setup RT_SIGNAL_LEASE handler
> From: Jim Hayward <jimhayward at earthlink.net>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:29:17 -0800
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
>
> --=-Kf02CuNsBX9Fs1GoGXxZ
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>
> On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 07:58, Rody wrote:
> > In my logwatch i find the following error returning daily:
> >=20
> > **Unmatched Entries**
> > smbd/oplock_linux.c:linux_init_kernel_oplocks(287)  Failed to setup=20
> > RT_SIGNAL_LEASE handler : 35 Time(s)
>
>
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D88716
>
>
> Regards,
> Jim H
>
>
> --=20
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>
> Message: 14
> Subject: Re: How to install Fedora along with SuSE9.0?
> From: Jim Hayward <jimhayward at earthlink.net>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:50:48 -0800
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
>
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>
> On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 11:19, hai wu wrote:
> > Is there any way to install Fedora without mess my
> > current GRUB and add the Fedora kernel line into GRUB
> > so that Fedora could boot from the GRUB?
>
> Previous versions of Red Hat allowed you to not install the boot loader.
> I always used this option to install multiple Linux versions on the same
> system. I've installed several Fedora systems, but I never paid any
> attention as to whether this option was still there. I imagine this
> option is still in Fedora. Then just add your Fedora install to your
> existing grub.conf.=20
>
> Regards,
> Jim H
>
>
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>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:06:34 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Rick Stevens wrote:
> >
> >> Why not get into your apache config file and do something like this:
> >
> >
> > Rick - I still get the Alert box nonsense with www.knechthome.com in it.
> > I think this is the real issue. Why does Apache look at my hosts file
> > and choose to use this info?
>
> Did you hit http://www.knechthome.com/files?  That's how the alias
> works.
>
> >
> > OK, so the first question that came up was which apache config file? I
> > find two directories
> >
> > /etc/apache/conf
> > /etc/apache2/conf/
> >
> > The second has an apache2.conf file in which I placed your edits at the
> > end:
>
> Oops!  No, those have to be either before the first "<VirtualHost>
> </VirtualHost>" clause (to make it server-wide, if you have more than
> one VirtualHost) or inside the clause (to make it active for JUST this
> VirtualHost).  For example:
>
> GLOBAL:
> Alias /files "/mnt/data/sessions"
>
> <Directory "/mnt/data/sessions">
>     Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
>     AllowOverride None
>     Order allow,deny
>     Allow from all
> </Directory>
>
> <VirtualHost www.knechthome.com>    (or <VirtualHost *>)
>     ServerAdmin webmaster at knechthome.com (Varies)
>     ServerName www.knechthome.com (Varies)
>     DocumentRoot /your/document/root (Varies)
>     ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/your/cgi-bin/" (Varies)
>     ErrorLog logs/knechthome.error_log (Varies)
>     CustomLog logs/knechthome.access_log common (Varies)
> </VirtualHost>
>
> VIRTUAL HOST-SPECIFIC:
> <VirtualHost www.knechthome.com>    (or <VirtualHost *>)
>     Alias /files "/mnt/data/sessions"
>
>     <Directory "/mnt/data/sessions">
> Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews
> AllowOverride None
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
>     </Directory>
>     ServerAdmin webmaster at knechthome.com (Varies)
>     ServerName www.knechthome.com (Varies)
>     DocumentRoot /your/document/root (Varies)
>     ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/your/cgi-bin/" (Varies)
>     ErrorLog logs/knechthome.error_log (Varies)
>     CustomLog logs/knechthome.access_log common (Varies)
> </VirtualHost>
>
> You choose.  My guess is you have a single site (a "<VirtualHost *>"),
> so I'd put them in the GLOBAL section.  Note also that the "(Varies)"
> is telling you in this message that the data in those lines will no
> doubt be different than what I'm showing.
>
> > Is this the right file?
>
> If you're using Apache 2.x, yes.
>
> >> Stop and restart Apache after changing the file.
> >
> >
> > Did this. /var/log/apache2/error_log shows the restart.
>
> Ok, so you're using Apache 2.x (must be the native install for RH9).
>
> > /var/log/apache2/access_log shows me going to the top page
> > (marksmusic.myvnc.com)
> >
> > 63.146.68.30 - - [20/Feb/2004:11:02:39 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 304 - "-"
> > "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040217"
> >
> >
> > Aiming your browser
> >
> >> at "http://www.your.site/files" will result in an index listing of the
> >> "/directory/where/the/files/are" directory.
> >
> >
> > However, when I try to access the files page it shows it failing with a
> > 301 error I think.
> >
> > 301 == "Moved Permanently"?
>
> I think you'll find that moving your set up will stop that from
> happening.  Remember that "Alias" sets up a quasi-symlink (like doing
> an "ln -s") to something that's not in your "DocumentRoot" directory
> tree.  The "<Directory>" stuff actually controls the access to the
> alias' destination (like "chmod" would to the destination of a symlink).
>
> You still must make sure that Apache can read the directory by doing
> the chmod stuff.  Apache is running as "nobody" and can't override
> filesystem permissions.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -                      LOOK OUT!!! BEHIND YOU!!!                     -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:07:23 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: How to install Fedora along with SuSE9.0?
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Jim Hayward wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 11:19, hai wu wrote:
> >
> >>Is there any way to install Fedora without mess my
> >>current GRUB and add the Fedora kernel line into GRUB
> >>so that Fedora could boot from the GRUB?
> >
> >
> > Previous versions of Red Hat allowed you to not install the boot loader.
> > I always used this option to install multiple Linux versions on the same
> > system. I've installed several Fedora systems, but I never paid any
> > attention as to whether this option was still there. I imagine this
> > option is still in Fedora. Then just add your Fedora install to your
> > existing grub.conf.
>
> Yes, the option is still there.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 17
> From: Rody <rody at xs4all.nl>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: samba error: Failed to setup RT_SIGNAL_LEASE handler
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:16:39 +0100
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Op vrijdag 20 februari 2004 21:29, schreef Jim Hayward:
> > On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 07:58, Rody wrote:
> > > In my logwatch i find the following error returning daily:
> > >
> > > **Unmatched Entries**
> > > smbd/oplock_linux.c:linux_init_kernel_oplocks(287)  Failed to setup
> > > RT_SIGNAL_LEASE handler : 35 Time(s)
> >
> > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88716
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jim H
>
> Ok, found the following solution / workaround, but where does it go?
>
>
> I was seeing sigaction fail in redhat 9 with 'invalid argument'... I did
> the following and oplocks succeeded:
>
> --- samba-2.2.7a/source/smbd/oplock_linux.c.orig 2003-06-05
14:40:49.000000000
> -0400
> +++ samba-2.2.7a/source/smbd/oplock_linux.c 2003-06-06 13:34:29.000000000
> -0400
> @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
>  #endif
>
>  #ifndef RT_SIGNAL_LEASE
> -#define RT_SIGNAL_LEASE 33
> +#define RT_SIGNAL_LEASE SIGRTMIN
>  #endif
>
>  #ifndef F_SETSIG
> --- samba-2.2.7a/source/smbd/notify_kernel.c.orig 2003-06-06
> 13:33:56.000000000 -0400
> +++ samba-2.2.7a/source/smbd/notify_kernel.c 2003-06-06 13:37:44.000000000
> -0400
> @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@
>
>
>  #ifndef RT_SIGNAL_NOTIFY
> -#define RT_SIGNAL_NOTIFY 34
> +#define RT_SIGNAL_NOTIFY SIGRTMIN+1
>  #endif
>
>  #ifndef F_SETSIG
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:27:32 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: installing developer package in linux 8.0 (the one containing
>  gcc, etc.)
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Francesco Lama wrote:
> > I installed my rh linux 8.0 some time ago, and have been happily using
> > it since, but I have recently acquired some software which requires
> > compiling by gcc. I have run rpm to attempt to install the package
> > containing it from the CDs I originally bought, as suggested by rpm, but
> > it complains about not finding the right versions of openssl, openldap,
> > cyrus-sasl, glibc, and krb5-libs. This makes sense, because I have been
> > updating my system regularly, using rh update agent, so I have the
> > latest versions of all installed packages in my system.
> > How can I now install the developer package, without going back to using
> > the earlier versions of all my installed packages?
> > Can I download the latest versions of the developer packages, free of
> > charge from anywhere?
> > Can I update the versions of the files on the developer package by some
> > means.
> > What do you advise?
>
> Why not pull down the latest gcc, g++ stuff from one of the mirror
> sites to a scratch directory (say, "/usr/xxx") and install them via
> "rpm -Fvh /usr/xxx/*.rpm".
>
> A good mirror is
> ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/pub/redhat/redhat/linux/updates/8.0/en/os/i386
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> - Millihelen, adj: The amount of beauty required to launch one ship. -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:50:48 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof
WS???
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Chris A Czerwinski wrote:
> > I see Red Hat's current "Under the Brim" is giving a sales pitch...
> >
> > Red Hat Professional Workstation: Enterprise Linux gets personal
> > Want to run an enterprise-quality operating system but don't actually
> > have an enterprise? Red Hat has the answer Red Hat Professional
> > Workstation. Based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Professional Workstation
> > provides a complete suite of tools for the power desktop user at an
> > affordable price. Best of all, it's annually renewable and comes with
> > one year of Red Hat Network updates and upgrades.
> >
> > Buy today and get a limited edition Red Hat cap.
> >
> > Is this still the old version of back then - Date unknown?
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > When I go to their Web Site and look at the various Red Hat Operating
> > Systems I am getting confused or more to the point I am looking for
> > specifics.
> >
> > I cannot find which versions of applications come with which operating
> > systems or what it now supports i.e what Red Hat Package Management
> > (RPM's) will now come with each Operating System (as in previous
> > versions!!) (and if it's detailed it's somewhere obscurely hidden from
> > us not to see.)
> >
> >                        RedHat  | RedHat   RedHat  RedHat  RedHat Fedora
> >                        Linux 9 | Prof-WS  EL-WS   EL-ES   EL-AS   Core
> >
> > XFree86                4.3.0   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > BlueCurve                      |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > GNOME                  2.2.0   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > KDE                            |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > Ximian Evolution       1.2.2-5 |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > OpenOffice             1.0.2   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > Mozilla                1.2.1   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > Samba                  2.27    |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > GCC                    3.2     |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > Perl                   5.8.0   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > Python                 2.2     |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > Apache                 2.0     |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > MySQL                  3.23.58 |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> > PostgreSQL             7.3.4   |   ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?     ?.?
> >
> >
> > What does this mean? NO MORE Red Hat Package Management (RPM) utility???
> >
> > Does that mean Red Hat is getting out of this feature and support?
> >
> > Does it mean that the various Applications now have to prepare their own
> > RPM's for RED HAT (also FEDORA) OS's?
> >
> > And for which version of Red Hat will they prepare and create? for the
> > top end? (or RHEL-WS? or RHEL-ES? or RHEL-AS? or RH Prof WS?) or does
> > Red Hat have the proper file structure as in other Distributions? Is
> > there a common feature for all to follow?
> >
> > How should I cope with this - or does Red Hat care about us?
> >
> > Red Hat promoted Linux and helped the users to get Red Hat up and
> > running. We followed the American dream and adopted Red Hat and they
> > (Red Hat) adopted a lot of new Linuxers and now that they've got
> > corporate's attention with their servers and stability does that mean -
> > they don't need us (peons) anymore?
> >
> > Fedora doesn't even have a BASE version for newcomers to adopt or other
> > PC'ers to move over to LINUX - FEDORA target is always moving - unlike
> > as other Distributions are finding out. Again the question - does Red
> > Hat Care?
> >
> > What is my objective for staying with Red Hat that they are abandoning
> > us Newbies or recent Adopters of Linux. Why should I still promote Red
> > Hat for their product service now that they have set their sites on the
> > Corporate Level?
> >
> > Sun is coming out with their own DeskTop version (which means there is a
> > business need), Novell has come out with their SUSE which will promote
> > their Base version (again another pro-business case) and Red Hat isn't
> > considering this option and is dropping us and FEDORA is always moving
> > forward with no Base version?
> >
> > I don't understand? We did nothing wrong. We followed.
> > (from the movie "A FEW GOOD MEN" - Jack Nicholson, Tome Cruise)
> > I want answers. I think I'm entitled.
> >
> > If I now need to learn another distribution then why should I still care
> > about staying and supporting Red Hat. They would have weaned me off and
> > there seems other good systems that could benefit from me or for that
> > matter I from them. Why do I feel that I have been dropped out of the
> > nest and when I look back at Red Hat - Do I see the door closing behind
> > me without an answer?
> >
> > Chris Cz (still learning that there are no answers or...)
>
> Red Hat is doing an end-of-life on all Red Hat Linux "free" products
> as of April, 2004.  Updates will continue for RH9 through August (IIRC).
>
> They are only doing Red Hat Enterprise Linux after that and you have to
> pay for it.  There are three versions:
>
> Red Hat Workstation Pro 3 (RHWP3)
> Red Hat Enterprise Server 3 (RHES3)
> Red Hat Advanced Server 3 (RHAS3)
>
> RHWP3 is essentially the same as Red Hat Linux 9.x (or 10) would have
> been.  What was going to be Red Hat Linux 10 is now called Fedora Core
> 1, and it's still free.  You can get it at http://fedora.redhat.com
> or one of the many mirrors listed there.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -                   "The bogosity meter just pegged."                -
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> Message: 20
> From: "Bassam ALHUSSEIN" <bhussein at scs-net.org>
> To: <redhat-install-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Question for admin of the list ...
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:01:51 +0200
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> It is been a few weeks that I have not received posts from this list
> !!!! so I subscribed again ...
> Now I am receiving posts but "one by one" I mean not attached as usual
> !!!
> This makes my inbox full of hundreds of mails ...is this normal ??
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 21
> Subject: Re: What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof
WS???
> From: Chris A Czerwinski <chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Organization:
> Date: 20 Feb 2004 17:13:07 -0500
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 16:50, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > Chris A Czerwinski wrote:
> > > I see Red Hat's current "Under the Brim" is giving a sales pitch...
> > >
> > > Red Hat Professional Workstation: Enterprise Linux gets personal
> > > Want to run an enterprise-quality operating system but don't actually
> > > have an enterprise? Red Hat has the answer Red Hat Professional
> > > Workstation. Based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Professional
Workstation
> > > provides a complete suite of tools for the power desktop user at an
> > > affordable price. Best of all, it's annually renewable and comes with
> > > one year of Red Hat Network updates and upgrades.
> > >
> > > Buy today and get a limited edition Red Hat cap.
> > >
> > > Is this still the old version of back then - Date unknown?
> > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris Cz (still learning that there are no answers or...)
> >
> > Red Hat is doing an end-of-life on all Red Hat Linux "free" products
> > as of April, 2004.  Updates will continue for RH9 through August (IIRC).
> >
> > They are only doing Red Hat Enterprise Linux after that and you have to
> > pay for it.  There are three versions:
> >
> >   Red Hat Workstation Pro 3   (RHWP3) is this the same as RHEL-WS?
> >   Red Hat Enterprise Server 3 (RHES3)    ''       ''      RHEL-ES?
> >   Red Hat Advanced Server 3   (RHAS3)    ''       ''      RHEL-AS?
> >
> > RHWP3 is essentially the same as Red Hat Linux 9.x (or 10) would have
> > been.  What was going to be Red Hat Linux 10 is now called Fedora Core
> > 1, and it's still free.  You can get it at http://fedora.redhat.com
> > or one of the many mirrors listed there.
>
> I'm getting mixed up with all this new and recent terminology?
>
> and with which RHxx3 can I use MySQL or PostgreSQL?
> as I am able to do with RHL9.
>
> And where does Red Hat Prof WS fit in the scheme of things?
> see above from "Under the Brim" and when does it's life cycle end?
> is this the same as   Red Hat Workstation Pro 3 (RHWP3)???
> (no version quoted by Red Hat -  see my problem.
>  can't anything for granted these days from Red Hat!!!)
>
> Chris Cz
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:18:13 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Question for admin of the list ...
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Bassam ALHUSSEIN wrote:
> > It is been a few weeks that I have not received posts from this list
> > !!!! so I subscribed again ...
> > Now I am receiving posts but "one by one" I mean not attached as usual
> > !!!
> > This makes my inbox full of hundreds of mails ...is this normal ??
>
> Yes, unless you selected the "digest" delivery mechanism.  Go to this
> link:
>
>   https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list
>
> Put your email address in the box at THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, then
> click "Set Options".  On the next page, enable "Set Digest Mode", put
> the password you got in your welcome message in the box at the bottom
> of the page and click "Submit My Changes".
>
> If this is too much, let me know by private email and I'll change them
> for you (I'm an assistant sysop on the list).
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> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
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> Message: 23
> Subject: Re: samba error: Failed to setup RT_SIGNAL_LEASE handler
> From: Jim Hayward <jimhayward at earthlink.net>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:19:19 -0800
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
>
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> On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 13:16, Rody wrote:
> >=20
> > Ok, found the following solution / workaround, but where does it go?
> >=20
>
> This is a patch for a file in the Samba source code. You would have to
> grab the Samba SRPM, edit the SPEC file to apply the patch, and then
> build a new binary RPM.=20
>
> This bug is still open, so it doesn't appear to have been resolved.
> However have you checked to make sure that your system is up to date
> with all the current errata? If your system is not up to date, I would
> update first and then see if the problem is still present.
>
>
> >=20
> > --- samba-2.2.7a/source/smbd/oplock_linux.c.orig 2003-06-05
14:40:49.0000=
> 00000=20
> > -0400
> > +++ samba-2.2.7a/source/smbd/oplock_linux.c 2003-06-06
13:34:29.000000000=
> =20
> > -0400
> > @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
> >  #endif
> > =20
> >  #ifndef RT_SIGNAL_LEASE
> > -#define RT_SIGNAL_LEASE 33
> > +#define RT_SIGNAL_LEASE SIGRTMIN
> >  #endif
> > =20
> >  #ifndef F_SETSIG
> > --- samba-2.2.7a/source/smbd/notify_kernel.c.orig 2003-06-06=20
> > 13:33:56.000000000 -0400
> > +++ samba-2.2.7a/source/smbd/notify_kernel.c 2003-06-06
13:37:44.00000000=
> 0=20
> > -0400
> > @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@
> > =20
> >=20
> >  #ifndef RT_SIGNAL_NOTIFY
> > -#define RT_SIGNAL_NOTIFY 34
> > +#define RT_SIGNAL_NOTIFY SIGRTMIN+1
> >  #endif
> > =20
> >  #ifndef F_SETSIG
> >=20
>
> Regards,
> Jim H
>
>
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> Message: 24
> Subject: Re: How to install Fedora along with SuSE9.0?
> From: Jim Hayward <jimhayward at earthlink.net>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:21:06 -0800
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
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> On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 13:07, Rick Stevens wrote:=20
> >=20
> > Yes, the option is still there.
>
> Thanks Rick. I figured that this option had not been removed from the
> FC1 installer. It would have been silly if they had removed it. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Jim H
>
>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:25:27 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof
WS???
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Chris A Czerwinski wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 16:50, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >
> >>Chris A Czerwinski wrote:
> >>
> >>>I see Red Hat's current "Under the Brim" is giving a sales pitch...
> >>>
> >>>Red Hat Professional Workstation: Enterprise Linux gets personal
> >>>Want to run an enterprise-quality operating system but don't actually
> >>>have an enterprise? Red Hat has the answer Red Hat Professional
> >>>Workstation. Based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Professional
Workstation
> >>>provides a complete suite of tools for the power desktop user at an
> >>>affordable price. Best of all, it's annually renewable and comes with
> >>>one year of Red Hat Network updates and upgrades.
> >>>
> >>>Buy today and get a limited edition Red Hat cap.
> >>>
> >>>Is this still the old version of back then - Date unknown?
> >>>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Chris Cz (still learning that there are no answers or...)
> >>
> >>Red Hat is doing an end-of-life on all Red Hat Linux "free" products
> >>as of April, 2004.  Updates will continue for RH9 through August (IIRC).
> >>
> >>They are only doing Red Hat Enterprise Linux after that and you have to
> >>pay for it.  There are three versions:
> >>
> >>  Red Hat Workstation Pro 3   (RHWP3) is this the same as RHEL-WS?
> >>  Red Hat Enterprise Server 3 (RHES3)    ''       ''      RHEL-ES?
> >>  Red Hat Advanced Server 3   (RHAS3)    ''       ''      RHEL-AS?
> >>
> >>RHWP3 is essentially the same as Red Hat Linux 9.x (or 10) would have
> >>been.  What was going to be Red Hat Linux 10 is now called Fedora Core
> >>1, and it's still free.  You can get it at http://fedora.redhat.com
> >>or one of the many mirrors listed there.
> >
> >
> > I'm getting mixed up with all this new and recent terminology?
> >
> > and with which RHxx3 can I use MySQL or PostgreSQL?
> > as I am able to do with RHL9.
>
> The "Enterprise Linux" stuff is the next release of what we used to call
> Red Hat Linux.  The differences are that it's newer and you must pay for
> updates via a subscription (or "entitlement" as they call it).  It's
> supposed to be more "bullet proof" than the other stuff, meaning that
> the number of patches are _supposed_ to be fewer.  I'll believe that
> when I see it.  Exploits are exploits and are only found after some time
> has elapsed.
>
> > And where does Red Hat Prof WS fit in the scheme of things?
> > see above from "Under the Brim" and when does it's life cycle end?
> > is this the same as   Red Hat Workstation Pro 3 (RHWP3)???
>
> RedHat Professional Workstation (RHPW) is NOT RHWP3.  They're VERY
> similar.  The major differences are the level of support offered to
> the buyer (RedHat offers limited support to RHPW, much more for RHWP3),
> how easily the thing can be upgraded/maintained remotely (RHPW is not
> designed to be remotely administered) and that RHPW supports only 2
> processors at most.  There are other differences, but those are the
> biggies.
>
> Again, if you're used to Red Hat Linux, you're not in a corporate
> environment that requires Enterprise Linux and you do your own admin
> stuff, go with Fedora.
>
>   has more
>
> > (no version quoted by Red Hat -  see my problem.
> >  can't anything for granted these days from Red Hat!!!)
> >
> > Chris Cz
> >
> >
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> >>- VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> >>-                                                                    -
> >>-                   "The bogosity meter just pegged."                -
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
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> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
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> Message: 26
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:39:25 -0800
> From: Mark Knecht <mknecht at controlnet.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Rick Stevens wrote:
>
> > Did you hit http://www.knechthome.com/files?  That's how the alias
> > works.
>
> Rick,
>     Thanks for the info. you're truly generous! I may miss you this
> afternoon so I'm just zipping this off to say thanks. I haven't tried
> everything you suggested yet.
>
>     I'm not sure what I hit. When I'm actually at home, sitting on that
> machine and I try to do this it tells me something like:
>
> http://localhost.knechthome.com/files doesn't exist. (
>
> This is paraphrased a bit.)
>
> when I'm here at work and I ask for http://marksmusic.myvnc.com/files it
> (I think my local copy of Mozilla) ends up telling me it cannot find
> Wizard.knechthome.com. No way it should find it since it's just a
> machine running Apache behind a remote firewall at my house, but the
> question I have is why do Apache tell it to look for
> Wizard.knechthome.com at all? Why doesn't it continue to look for
> marksmusic,myvnc.com and then ask for the directory called files?
>
> This is what I need to study this weekend.
>
> <SNIP>
> >> The second has an apache2.conf file in which I placed your edits at
> >> the end:
>
> Tried moving it but no change yet.
>
> >
> >
> > Oops!  No, those have to be either before the first "<VirtualHost>
> > </VirtualHost>" clause (to make it server-wide, if you have more than
> > one VirtualHost) or inside the clause (to make it active for JUST this
> > VirtualHost).  For example:
>
> Great example! I'm going to study that tonight and see if I can make
> sense of how to put it into my files. The one complication I see is that
>   the config files are loading other config files, like apache2.conf
> including commonapache2.conf, so I guess my stuff needs to be before
> those includes?
>
>
> >
> > VIRTUAL HOST-SPECIFIC:
> >     <VirtualHost www.knechthome.com>    (or <VirtualHost *>)
> >         Alias /files "/mnt/data/sessions"
>
> I want to be clear about this point above - the <VirtualHost *> comment
> above - does this exist by default and then automatically use the name I
> place in my hosts file??? If it did it could account for why I'm seeing
> some of this stuff. Something like knechthome.com is in hosts, so a
> VitualHost gets set up, but then Apache tries to 'resolve'
> knechthome.com through DNS and cannot, so it bbombs out saying it cannot
> find it?
>
> Maybe I'm making it more complicated than it really is.
>
> >
> > I think you'll find that moving your set up will stop that from
> > happening.  Remember that "Alias" sets up a quasi-symlink (like doing
> > an "ln -s") to something that's not in your "DocumentRoot" directory
> > tree.  The "<Directory>" stuff actually controls the access to the
> > alias' destination (like "chmod" would to the destination of a symlink).
>
> I hope so, but not yet. Still, I have some serious studying to do I
think...
>
> Also, looking at the commonapache2.conf file it appear I can run a
> virtual host by possibly having a 'public_html' directory in either my
> account or a special account I make for only doing Apache?
>
> >
> > You still must make sure that Apache can read the directory by doing
> > the chmod stuff.  Apache is running as "nobody" and can't override
> > filesystem permissions.
>
> Yes, I get that intellectually, now lets see if I can put it into
practice.
>
> Thanks much and have a good weekend.
>
> - Mark
>
>
>
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> Message: 27
> Subject: Re: What RPMs are going to be supported with RHEL and RH Prof
WS???
> From: Jim Hayward <jimhayward at earthlink.net>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:44:26 -0800
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
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> On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 14:13, Chris A Czerwinski wrote:
> >=20
> > I'm getting mixed up with all this new and recent terminology?
> >=20
> > and with which RHxx3 can I use MySQL or PostgreSQL?
> > as I am able to do with RHL9.
>
> Yes. However some of the server packages do not come with RHEL WS.
>
> >=20
> > And where does Red Hat Prof WS fit in the scheme of things?
> > see above from "Under the Brim" and when does it's life cycle end?
>
> RHPW has a 5 year life cycle just like the RHEL products.
>
> > is this the same as   Red Hat Workstation Pro 3 (RHWP3)???
>
> RHPW and RHEL WS include the exact same packages. The level of support
> is what is different. The only support included with RHPW is updates.
> This is why it is cheaper then RHEL WS. RHPW comes with one year of
> updates via RHN. After the first year renewals can be purchased for $60
> US per/year.=20
>
> You can buy RHPW online from Staples for $50. Much cheaper then the $179
> for RHEL WS.
>
>
> Regards,
> Jim H
>
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> Message: 28
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:13:31 -0800
> From: Rick Stevens <rstevens at vitalstream.com>
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: OT:Apache question
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
>
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Rick Stevens wrote:
> >
> >> Did you hit http://www.knechthome.com/files?  That's how the alias
> >> works.
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> >    Thanks for the info. you're truly generous! I may miss you this
> > afternoon so I'm just zipping this off to say thanks. I haven't tried
> > everything you suggested yet.
> >
> >    I'm not sure what I hit. When I'm actually at home, sitting on that
> > machine and I try to do this it tells me something like:
> >
> > http://localhost.knechthome.com/files doesn't exist. (
> >
> > This is paraphrased a bit.)
> >
> > when I'm here at work and I ask for http://marksmusic.myvnc.com/files it
> > (I think my local copy of Mozilla) ends up telling me it cannot find
> > Wizard.knechthome.com. No way it should find it since it's just a
> > machine running Apache behind a remote firewall at my house, but the
> > question I have is why do Apache tell it to look for
> > Wizard.knechthome.com at all? Why doesn't it continue to look for
> > marksmusic,myvnc.com and then ask for the directory called files?
> >
> > This is what I need to study this weekend.
>
> Hoo, boy.  Ok.  Read further.
>
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> >>> The second has an apache2.conf file in which I placed your edits at
> >>> the end:
> >
> >
> > Tried moving it but no change yet.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Oops!  No, those have to be either before the first "<VirtualHost>
> >> </VirtualHost>" clause (to make it server-wide, if you have more than
> >> one VirtualHost) or inside the clause (to make it active for JUST this
> >> VirtualHost).  For example:
> >
> >
> > Great example! I'm going to study that tonight and see if I can make
> > sense of how to put it into my files. The one complication I see is that
> >  the config files are loading other config files, like apache2.conf
> > including commonapache2.conf, so I guess my stuff needs to be before
> > those includes?
>
> No, Apache 2, by default, uses multiple config files that are included
> from the main httpd.conf file.  These other files usually are module-
> related (e.g. using "ssl.conf" if you're using secure sockets layers and
> so on).  The primary config stuff on a per-site basis is still in the
> main httpd.conf config file, towards the end.
>
> >> VIRTUAL HOST-SPECIFIC:
> >>     <VirtualHost www.knechthome.com>    (or <VirtualHost *>)
> >>         Alias /files "/mnt/data/sessions"
> >
> >
> > I want to be clear about this point above - the <VirtualHost *> comment
> > above - does this exist by default and then automatically use the name I
> > place in my hosts file??? If it did it could account for why I'm seeing
> > some of this stuff. Something like knechthome.com is in hosts, so a
> > VitualHost gets set up, but then Apache tries to 'resolve'
> > knechthome.com through DNS and cannot, so it bbombs out saying it cannot
> > find it?
>
> "<VirtualHost *>" essentially matches any IP address.  An example is in
> order...
>
> If your config contains:
>
> <VirtualHost www.site1.com>
>     DocumentRoot /usr/sites/site1/www
> </VirtualHost>
>
> <VirtualHost www.site2.com>
>     DocumentRoot /usr/sites/site2/www
> </VirtualHost>
>
> and "www.site1.com" and "www.site2.com" both resolve the the IP address
> on your system, the server will decode the host header and serve the
> request based on the appropriate directive (site1 would get pages
> from /usr/sites/site1/www, site2 from /usr/sites/site2/www, etc.).  If,
> however, you have a third site, "www.site3.com" with the same IP, the
> server will NOT respond since there's no directive for site3.com.
>
> The "<VirtualHost *>" directive matches all IPs and domains.  I can't
> recall (and it's not obvious from the docs) if the order is significant.
> If I remember correctly, a directive layout like this:
>
> <VirtualHost www.site1.com>
>     DocumentRoot /usr/sites/site1/www
> </VirtualHost>
>
> <VirtualHost www.site2.com>
>     DocumentRoot /usr/sites/site2/www
> </VirtualHost>
>
> <VirtualHost *>
>     DocumentRoot /usr/sites/default/www
> </VirtualHost>
>
> would result in site1 and site2 being handled properly, but any other
> sites that resolve to your IP would be served from
> /usr/sites/default/www (in other words, the "*" acts as a last ditch
> match).  However, if "<VirtualHost *>" is the FIRST one, it may be that
> ALL sites that resolve to your IP are served from the
> /usr/sites/default/www directory ("*" overrides everything).  As I
> said, I can't remember.
>
> Be that as it may, if you are going to have just one site on your system
> and you really don't care what the URL is, just use the "VirtualHost *"
> directive.  That way, if an HTTP packet hits your box, it responds.
>
> > Maybe I'm making it more complicated than it really is.
>
> Not really, but you _said_ you didn't want to be an Apache admin. ;-)
>
> >> I think you'll find that moving your set up will stop that from
> >> happening.  Remember that "Alias" sets up a quasi-symlink (like doing
> >> an "ln -s") to something that's not in your "DocumentRoot" directory
> >> tree.  The "<Directory>" stuff actually controls the access to the
> >> alias' destination (like "chmod" would to the destination of a
symlink).
> >
> >
> > I hope so, but not yet. Still, I have some serious studying to do I
> > think...
> >
> > Also, looking at the commonapache2.conf file it appear I can run a
> > virtual host by possibly having a 'public_html' directory in either my
> > account or a special account I make for only doing Apache?
>
> Hmmm.  That directive doesn't look familiar, and I don't have a
> "commonapache2.conf" file on any of my systems that I can refer to.
> How did you install apache2, RPM or tarball/build?
>
> >> You still must make sure that Apache can read the directory by doing
> >> the chmod stuff.  Apache is running as "nobody" and can't override
> >> filesystem permissions.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I get that intellectually, now lets see if I can put it into
practice.
> >
> > Thanks much and have a good weekend.
>
> Okey doke.  I may have time to do a bit of research myself this weekend.
> Most of my work is still Apache 1-based.  We don't do a lot of Apache 2
> stuff (Apache 2 isn't all that much better than Apache 1, IMHO).
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> - VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> -                                                                    -
> -             To iterate is human, to recurse, divine.               -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 29
> From: "Stewart Walker" <swalker at caspercollege.edu>
> Organization: Casper College
> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:20:22 -0700
> Subject: R:Re: vncserver startup at boot
> Reply-To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com
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>
> Stewart Walker wrote:
> > if I run vncserver as root.. viewer works fine. If I run it as a service
> > viewer responds with failed to connect to server.
> > I think its due to not finding the files vncserver creates in the
> > /root/.vnc directory.
> >
> > How do I fix this?
>
> >>Er, how do you mean "run it as a service"?
>
> Its selected in the Service configuration or [@>]service vncserver start.
> which displays OK but no client connection are possible.
>
> if I do [@>]vncserver as root its does it thing and clients can connect.
>
> What file are the below mentioned options set in?
> Took a look at /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd and didn't find any thing for Xvnc.
> nothing in /etc/rc.d/init.d/vncserver.
>
> Where does the displaynumber stuff get set as ":0" is the console.
>
> Thanks
>
> >>If you simply run Xvnc, it
> >>should create the necessary stuff and detatch.  You should then be able
> >>to get at it from any client if your firewall allows it.
>
> >>If you want to run Xvnc from xinetd, make sure you specify the "-inetd"
> >>option in the "serverargs =" bit.
>
> >>Also, make sure you use the ":displaynumber" stuff on the host name if
> >the display is anything but ":0" or it surely won't work.
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer     rstevens at vitalstream.com -
> >>- VitalStream, Inc.                       http://www.vitalstream.com -
> >>-                                                                    -
> >>-            "You think that's tough?  Try herding cats!"            -
> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                  \\|//
>               -(@ @)-
> ===oOO==(_)==OOo======================
>
> Stewart Walker
> swalker at caspercollege.edu
>
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> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Stewart
Walker wrote:</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span
style="font-size:10pt">> if I run vncserver as root.. viewer works fine.
If I run it as a service </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span
style="font-size:10pt">> viewer responds with failed to connect to
server.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span
style="font-size:10pt">> I think its due to not finding the files
vncserver creates in the </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span
style="font-size:10pt">> /root/.vnc directory.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span
style="font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span
style="font-size:10pt">> How do I fix this?</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>Er, how do you mean "run it as a
service"?  </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Its
selected in the Service configuration or [@>]service vncserver
start.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">which
displays OK but no client connection are possible.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">if I do
[@>]vncserver as root its does it thing and clients can
connect.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">What
file are the below mentioned options set in?</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Took a
look at /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd and didn't find any thing for
Xvnc.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">nothing
in /etc/rc.d/init.d/vncserver.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Where
does the displaynumber stuff get set as ":0" is the
console.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">Thanks</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>If you simply run Xvnc,
it</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>should create the necessary stuff and
detatch.  You should then be able</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>to get at it from any client if your firewall
allows it.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>If you want to run Xvnc from xinetd, make
sure you specify the "-inetd"</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>option in the "serverargs ="
bit.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>Also, make sure you use the
":displaynumber" stuff on the host name if</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">>the
display is anything but ":0" or it surely won't
work.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>---------------------------------------------
-------------------------</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems
Engineer     </span></font><font face="Arial"
color="#008000"><span
> style="font-size:10pt"><u>rstevens at vitalstream.com</u></span></font><font
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"> -</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>- VitalStream,
Inc.            
          
</span></font><font
> face="Arial" color="#008000"><span
style="font-size:10pt"><u>http://www.vitalstream.com</u></span></font><font
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"> -</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>-       &#
160;            
            &#16
0;            &#
160;            
         
> -</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>-       &#
160;    "You think that's tough? 
> Try herding
cats!"          &#160
; -</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">>>---------------------------------------------
-------------------------</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">        &#160
;        \\|//</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">        &#160
;     -(@ @)-</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">===oOO==(_)==OOo======================</span></font><
/div>
> <div align="left"><br/>
> </div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Stewart
Walker</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10pt">swalker at caspercollege.edu</span></font></div>
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