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RE: it's so disappointing

I'd say then try SuSE Professional Edition.  Last time I purchased it
was 79.95 version 8.1.  Auto updated and everything.  They have nice
tools.  All the email support you want.  I used to talk to their
developers all the time.


-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-admin redhat com [mailto:redhat-list-admin redhat com]
On Behalf Of Dave Ihnat
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:10 PM
To: redhat-list redhat com
Subject: Re: it's so disappointing

On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 07:04:35AM -0800, Richard Crawford wrote:
> At the risk of sounding even more like flame fodder, most projects 
> make
> their products available in several different formats.  RPM is but
> and from what I can tell, it is not always the best.

He goes on to point out that you can Use The Source, Luke; and that the
maintainers are usually (actually, almost always) ahead of RH, anyway.

All true; but it beggars the question, "Then, why RedHat?".

I've done Unix development--kernel work at BTL, at the start--since
1980. I've contributed to GNU, written a mountain of code--what, I don't
want to write YADB?  I've already written 3 or 4 proprietary databases
packages, for instance, worked on a dozen more, including virtually
every commercially available database--many lost in the mists of
time--and so on.  I've NO
*problem* downloading and building packages.

That's not why I bought RedHat.  I bought RH because of the "I don't
want to write another OS/utility/whatever" syndrome.  They went to the
trouble of building, patching, and integrating all of the software. I
CAN do it; I HAVE DONE it.  But I have only specific details, nothing
new in kind, to learn by having to do it again.  I wanted RH to provide
a working platform so I can get OTHER work done.

Now, in fact, building the packages from the maintainer's source will
result in real problems when you try to update an installed RPM.  And
you probably can't just remove the RPM if the package has any
significant dependencies...

So you really come down to:

	1.  Pay for the full-bore system.  Live in RPM harmony.  All is
	    RedHat supported, life is good, the bills are higher.

	2.  Pay for the professional workstation.  Add what you can,
	    from self-built and configured sources.  Maybe RPM harmony,
	    maybe not; servers/packages/etc. you add, even from RH
	    are unsupported except by you.  You decide if the initial
	    consistency is worth the cost of RHPW.

	3.  Leave RedHat and try to find someone else who does it the
	    way you want to.  No hard feelings.

	Dave Ihnat
	ignatz dminet com

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