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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Please help as soon as possible (Nitin)
   2. Re: Please help as soon as possible (MKlinke)
   3. RE: Router/Firewall Recommendation (Otto Haliburton)
   4. Re: Router/Firewall Recommendation (Mark Dadgar)
   5. Re: Please help as soon as possible (Ed Wilts)
   6. Re: Router/Firewall Recommendation (Ed Wilts)
   7. RE: Router/Firewall Recommendation (Otto Haliburton)
   8. RE: Windows Services for Unix 3.5 (David Saldana)
   9. RE: Windows Services for Unix 3.5 (Paul Crossman)
  10. linux samba configuration??? and running remote applications
      (bruce)
  11. RE: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
      applications (Jay Berryman)
  12. Re: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
      applications (Jonathan Bartlett)
  13. Re: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
      applications (Dave Ihnat)
  14. Re: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
      applications (Reuben D. Budiardja)
  15. DKMS mkrpm, mkdriverdisk (Gary_Lerhaupt at Dell.com)
  16. About a.out  (Vahric MUHTARYAN)
  17. RE: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
      applications (Ryan Golhar)
  18. Libmilter and RH9 (Eucke Warren)
  19. Re: Libmilter and RH9 (Carl Riches)
  20. RE: Libmilter and RH9 (Cowles, Steve)
  21. Re: Libmilter and RH9 (Mark Dadgar)
  22. Inheriting group ownership under Red Hat Linux? (Carl Riches)
  23. Re: Inheriting group ownership under Red Hat Linux? (alan)
  24. Re: Inheriting group ownership under Red Hat Linux? (Carl Riches)
  25. Re: Inheriting group ownership under Red Hat Linux? (Pete Nesbitt)
  26. Re: Iptables: port 22 open only for my IP (Pete Nesbitt)
  27. Re: Please help as soon as possible (Pete Nesbitt)
  28. RH9 custom installer boot weirdness (Matthew Poole)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:35:16 +0530
From: "Nitin" <nitinmehta at kappa.net.in>
Subject: Re: Please help as soon as possible
To: <mklinke at axsi.com>,	"General Red Hat Linux discussion list"
	<redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <004201c4593b$e2940330$150a0a0a at dba>
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I'm talking about server side of my sendmail. I used mail utility of Linux to check the mail and it now doesn't show the messages printed once. There's an option 'unread' but it can only be used, while you are still in the session......

Using Sendmail 8.9.3 on Redhat Linux 7.2.

There's absolutely no messagebox file like there should be in /var/spool/mail. So what happened to those messages? are they deleted as soon as read ?

Any help or links will b highly appreciated..

Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "MKlinke" <mklinke at axsi.com>
To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Please help as soon as possible

> On Wednesday 23 June 2004 03:34, Nitin wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Its really urgent. Hope its easy for someone.
> >
> > I was looking for problem on my mail server and printed some mails
> > out of it (of course for testing) with 'print'. By chance some of
> > them were important messages, now, how do I mark them unread, so
> > that they can be downloaded.
> >
> > Please help me as soon as possible.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
>
> You forgot to say which mail user agent/software you are using but a
> generally held convention is to right-click the message listing and
> you'll be presented with a list of options that include several
> different marking options.
>
> If this doesn't help you may want to include more information and
> someone using the same software might be able to better help you.
>
> Regards,  Mike Klinke
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 11:32:50 -0500
From: MKlinke <mklinke at axsi.com> (by way of MKlinke
	<mklinke at axsi.com>)
Subject: Re: Please help as soon as possible
To: redhat-list at redhat.com
Message-ID: <200406231132.50042.mklinke at axsi.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

On Wednesday 23 June 2004 11:05, you wrote:
> I'm talking about server side of my sendmail. I used mail utility
> of Linux to check the mail and it now doesn't show the messages
> printed once. There's an option 'unread' but it can only be used,
> while you are still in the session......
>
> Using Sendmail 8.9.3 on Redhat Linux 7.2.
>
> There's absolutely no messagebox file like there should be in
> /var/spool/mail. So what happened to those messages? are they
> deleted as soon as read ?
>
> Any help or links will b highly appreciated..
>
> Thanks

I don't use the "mail" utililty but a quick look at the documentation
shows that each user should have a file name "mbox" in his home
directory where mail is sent.  If that's not what you see, perhaps
someone else more familiar will jump in here.

Regards,  Mike Klinke

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 11:48:23 -0500
From: "Otto Haliburton" <ottohaliburton at comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Router/Firewall Recommendation
To: "'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <00b801c45941$e8cfdf20$4601a8c0 at C515816A>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-list-
> bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:12 AM
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> Subject: Re: Router/Firewall Recommendation
> 
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 08:27:40AM -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you mean, but you can't get a better firewall than not
> > projecting the ip of the internal computer to the outside world.
> Remember
> > 'nat' there is no better or in depth firewalling.
> 
> NAT will only protect you from inbound new connections.  It does
> absolutely nothing if you have a rampant application on your Windows box
> that opens a port to the outside world.
>
I believe that you can prevent any outgoing port from being opened to the
outside world in the router fyi, in case you haven't prevented that.  Plus
if that occurs I think that the administrator needs to take swift and
decisive action.

> Similarly, you can rely on tcpwrappers to control most inbound
> connections but outbound is still a free-for-all unless you add iptables
> to the mix.
> 
> For the best security, a well designed and implemented iptables
> configuration will be better than a hardware firewall.  However, for
> those looking for "good enough" solutions that solve the most common
> attacks, a hardware firewall like a Linksys router/firewall box does the
> job fairly well.
> 
I respectfully disagree with you here.  A hardware firewall is practically
inpenetratable because the outside world never knows the ip address of
computers behind the firewall, were as the first level is penetrated
automatically by a none hardware firewall, you have to think about this a
little to get what I mean.

> Personally, I use a Linksys router/firewall with some predetermined
> ports forwarded to my Linux system (none to my Windows systems) and add
> tcpwrappers to restrict which hosts are actually allowed to use that
> service.  For example, ssh makes it through the firewall but tcpwrappers
> restricts the incoming connections to my office subnet.
> 
if I am interpreting this correctly.  Not all of your computers are behind
the linksys firewall and that is the problem!!!!!

> Another important thing to note is the maintainability of the firewall.
> If my Linksys ever dies, I can throw in another one in no time flat with
> a fast trip to a local store.  If you use a  Linux system and have a
> hardware failure, you're in for a lot more work.
> 
Agreed
> --
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> Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 10:09:01 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <mark at pdc-racing.net>
Subject: Re: Router/Firewall Recommendation
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <05D2B219-C538-11D8-A55B-000A95DA10EE at pdc-racing.net>
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On Jun 23, 2004, at 5:19 AM, Mike Burger wrote:
>>> Just a thought, IMHO if you use a inksys router with nat then you do
>>> have a
>>> firewall, in fact a very effective hardware firewall.  I don't think
>>> you can
>>> get better performance and security at the same time.  I would put 
>>> all
>>> my
>>> computers behind the linksys router and forget it.
>>
>> I agree.  You've got a purpose-built appliance device instead of a
>> general-use OS with all of it's myriad exploits.
>>
>> Just run the hardware firewall and forget about it.
>
> Well, that really does depend on just what you want to do, and how in
> depth you want your firewalling to be.

If you're that worried about security, just unplug the network cable 
and be done with it.

- Mark
-----
mark at pdc-racing.net

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:15:42 -0500
From: Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>
Subject: Re: Please help as soon as possible
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20040623171542.GA27056 at www.ewilts.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 09:35:16PM +0530, Nitin wrote:
> I'm talking about server side of my sendmail. I used mail utility of Linux
> to check the mail and it now doesn't show the messages printed once. There's
> an option 'unread' but it can only be used, while you are still in the
> session......
> 
> Using Sendmail 8.9.3 on Redhat Linux 7.2.

sendmail is a mail transfer agent - MTA for short.  It only receives and
sends e-mail and has no user components.  You do not interact with
sendmail when you're reading your e-mail - sendmail has already passed
it off to a mail delivery agent (MDA) which has stored the message
somewhere.  You then run a mail user agent (MUA) like evolution, mutt,
pine, etc.  It's the MUA that decides to delete or keep your read e-mail
or mark it read/unread.

What application are you starting up to read your e-mail?  Are you reading
via local files, pop, or imap?

> There's absolutely no messagebox file like there should be in
> /var/spool/mail. So what happened to those messages? are they deleted as
> soon as read ?

There are a lot of variables - if you read via pop with a delete after
read setting, then yes, they may have been deleted.  

-- 
Ed Wilts, RHCE
Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org
Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:21:22 -0500
From: Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>
Subject: Re: Router/Firewall Recommendation
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20040623172122.GB27056 at www.ewilts.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 11:48:23AM -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote:
> > NAT will only protect you from inbound new connections.  It does
> > absolutely nothing if you have a rampant application on your Windows box
> > that opens a port to the outside world.
> >
> I believe that you can prevent any outgoing port from being opened to the
> outside world in the router fyi, in case you haven't prevented that.  Plus
> if that occurs I think that the administrator needs to take swift and
> decisive action.

You have some control on the outbound ports on the Linksys routers but
nowhere near what you can get with iptables.  If you want to, for
example, restrict outbound port 80 to www.microsoft.com, it's much
harder to do at the Linksys level, if it's even possible.

> > Personally, I use a Linksys router/firewall with some predetermined
> > ports forwarded to my Linux system (none to my Windows systems) and add
> > tcpwrappers to restrict which hosts are actually allowed to use that
> > service.  For example, ssh makes it through the firewall but tcpwrappers
> > restricts the incoming connections to my office subnet.
> > 
> if I am interpreting this correctly.  Not all of your computers are behind
> the linksys firewall and that is the problem!!!!!

I have my systems behind the Linksys firewall but it forwards a few
ports to my server. It's how mail and ssh get in and how I can serve up
web pages to the outside world.

-- 
Ed Wilts, RHCE
Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org
Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:37:23 -0500
From: "Otto Haliburton" <ottohaliburton at comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Router/Firewall Recommendation
To: "'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <00bb01c45948$c1023040$4601a8c0 at C515816A>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-list-
> bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:21 PM
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> Subject: Re: Router/Firewall Recommendation
> 
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 11:48:23AM -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote:
> > > NAT will only protect you from inbound new connections.  It does
> > > absolutely nothing if you have a rampant application on your Windows
> box
> > > that opens a port to the outside world.
> > >
> > I believe that you can prevent any outgoing port from being opened to
> the
> > outside world in the router fyi, in case you haven't prevented that.
> Plus
> > if that occurs I think that the administrator needs to take swift and
> > decisive action.
> 
> You have some control on the outbound ports on the Linksys routers but
> nowhere near what you can get with iptables.  If you want to, for
> example, restrict outbound port 80 to www.microsoft.com, it's much
> harder to do at the Linksys level, if it's even possible.

I maybe wrong but this sort of thing has all ways been accomplished with a
proxy server, but I don't know.  I've never ever had a need to do this so I
guess to each his own.
> 
> > > Personally, I use a Linksys router/firewall with some predetermined
> > > ports forwarded to my Linux system (none to my Windows systems) and
> add
> > > tcpwrappers to restrict which hosts are actually allowed to use that
> > > service.  For example, ssh makes it through the firewall but
> tcpwrappers
> > > restricts the incoming connections to my office subnet.
> > >
> > if I am interpreting this correctly.  Not all of your computers are
> behind
> > the linksys firewall and that is the problem!!!!!
> 
> I have my systems behind the Linksys firewall but it forwards a few
> ports to my server. It's how mail and ssh get in and how I can serve up
> web pages to the outside world.
> 
> --
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> Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org
> Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 10:43:22 -0700
From: "David Saldana" <dsaldana at wischip.com>
Subject: RE: Windows Services for Unix 3.5
To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
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Hi Paul

	Thanks for your answer, you are right I, it is Windows 2003 not
win3k, anyway the NIS  server is in the same net, I can ping the server
from the Linux machine but it can not see NIS, any special service that
I need to start in the linux side?

Thanks again

David

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crossman
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:55 AM
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: RE: Windows Services for Unix 3.5

Is the windows box on a different network and are you broadcasting for
the NIS server on the Linux box?

If you are, it will never work.  If your NIS server is on a different
subnet (i.e. outside the netmask), you'll never see it via a NIS
broadcast.  If you haven't, try specifying the windows box explicitly
and see if that works.

BTW, how did you get Win3k 995 some odd years early?  How slow does it
run on this primitive technology?  :)  Sorry...  Couldn't resist and I
could have gone on for pages and pages with this.  :)

Paul C.

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[mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of David Saldana
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:45 PM
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: Windows Services for Unix 3.5

Hi All,    

            I have installed Windows services for Unix in My Windows 3k
server and I want it to serve as a NIS  server but when I try  to point
the Linux machine to use the windows NIS server it said it can not
contact the server, I have check the configuration in windows and
everything seems to be fine and all the processes are running so I don't
know if I am missing something in the Linux side. Does anybody know what
needs to be done to make this work?

Thanks

David

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:07:02 -0400
From: "Paul Crossman" <pcrossma at orange.us>
Subject: RE: Windows Services for Unix 3.5
To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <E7D674F13365EB489DDE409C298124B5E523BA at valiant.orange.us>
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Nothing special.  Just make sure that ypbind is started on the Linux
box.

Paul C.

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[mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of David Saldana
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:43 PM
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: RE: Windows Services for Unix 3.5

Hi Paul

	Thanks for your answer, you are right I, it is Windows 2003 not
win3k, anyway the NIS  server is in the same net, I can ping the server
from the Linux machine but it can not see NIS, any special service that
I need to start in the linux side?

Thanks again

David

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
[mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crossman
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:55 AM
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: RE: Windows Services for Unix 3.5

Is the windows box on a different network and are you broadcasting for
the NIS server on the Linux box?

If you are, it will never work.  If your NIS server is on a different
subnet (i.e. outside the netmask), you'll never see it via a NIS
broadcast.  If you haven't, try specifying the windows box explicitly
and see if that works.

BTW, how did you get Win3k 995 some odd years early?  How slow does it
run on this primitive technology?  :)  Sorry...  Couldn't resist and I
could have gone on for pages and pages with this.  :)

Paul C.

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
[mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of David Saldana
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:45 PM
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: Windows Services for Unix 3.5

Hi All,    

            I have installed Windows services for Unix in My Windows 3k
server and I want it to serve as a NIS  server but when I try  to point
the Linux machine to use the windows NIS server it said it can not
contact the server, I have check the configuration in windows and
everything seems to be fine and all the processes are running so I don't
know if I am missing something in the Linux side. Does anybody know what
needs to be done to make this work?

Thanks

David

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:51:39 -0700
From: "bruce" <bedouglas at earthlink.net>
Subject: linux samba configuration??? and running remote applications
To: "'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
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hi...

i'm in need of a way to access data on the hard drive of one linux box, from
another linux box. i've seen reference to setting up samba as a way to
accomplish this. information that i've seen from google doesn't give me a
good/quick way of setting this up??

does anybody have any pointers/comments on how to set this up, so i can have
multiple systems able to share/access the hard drives on the various
machines...???

also, does anyone have an idea as to how i can run a perl command/app on
machine "A" while i'm on machine "B"?

i have linux rh8.0 with perl 5.8. i also appear to have samba in the
services, although it doesn't appear to be installed.

thanks

-bruce

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:01:31 -0500
From: Jay Berryman <jay.berryman at sitel.com>
Subject: RE: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
	applications
To: bedouglas at earthlink.net, General Red Hat Linux discussion list
	<redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID:
	<BAEDCDF29A58CF4D8E1A94B670EF428F016FC357 at omaha-mail-2.sitel.net>
Content-Type: text/plain

NFS is a good way to handle sharing data from one Linux box to another.
Here is a link for a NFS how to.
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/index.html.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of bruce
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:52 PM
To: 'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'
Subject: linux samba configuration??? and running remote applications

hi...

i'm in need of a way to access data on the hard drive of one linux box, from
another linux box. i've seen reference to setting up samba as a way to
accomplish this. information that i've seen from google doesn't give me a
good/quick way of setting this up??

does anybody have any pointers/comments on how to set this up, so i can have
multiple systems able to share/access the hard drives on the various
machines...???

also, does anyone have an idea as to how i can run a perl command/app on
machine "A" while i'm on machine "B"?

i have linux rh8.0 with perl 5.8. i also appear to have samba in the
services, although it doesn't appear to be installed.

thanks

-bruce

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:29:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathan Bartlett <johnnyb at eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
	applications
To: bedouglas at earthlink.net,	General Red Hat Linux discussion list
	<redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.58.0406231426310.13650 at eskimo.com>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Don't have time to say much, but if it's Linux->Linux communication, you
want to be running NFS, not Samba.  You should look at chapter 28 of RUTE
at http://rute.sf.net/

> also, does anyone have an idea as to how i can run a perl command/app on
> machine "A" while i'm on machine "B"?

Use telnet or ssh.

Jon
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:32:12 -0500
From: Dave Ihnat <ignatz at dminet.com>
Subject: Re: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
	applications
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20040623213211.GB22670 at dminet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 02:29:08PM -0700, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> > also, does anyone have an idea as to how i can run a perl command/app on
> > machine "A" while i'm on machine "B"?
> 
> Use telnet or ssh.

Or rsh.  Or set up a command in your /etc/aliases file.
We got a million of 'em...
-- 
	Dave Ihnat
	ignatz at dminet.com

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:38:07 -0400
From: "Reuben D. Budiardja" <techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
	applications
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200406231738.07899.techlist at voyager.phys.utk.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

On Wednesday 23 June 2004 05:32 pm, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 02:29:08PM -0700, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> > > also, does anyone have an idea as to how i can run a perl command/app
> > > on machine "A" while i'm on machine "B"?
> >
> > Use telnet or ssh.
>
> Or rsh.  Or set up a command in your /etc/aliases file.

huh ?  isn't /etc/aliases for sendmail alias ? How do you setup to run a 
command on the remote machine using this file?

RDB
-- 
Reuben D. Budiardja
Department of Physics and Astronomy
The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN
---------------------------------------------------------
"To be a nemesis, you have to actively try to destroy 
something, don't you? Really, I'm not out to destroy 
Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional 
side effect."
                 - Linus Torvalds -

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:36:36 -0500
From: <Gary_Lerhaupt at Dell.com>
Subject: DKMS mkrpm, mkdriverdisk
To: <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID:
	<FD3BA83843210C4BA9E414B0C56A5E5C07DDA2 at ausx2kmpc104.aus.amer.dell.com>

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Just wanted to give everyone an FYI about DKMS given some of its nice
new features in the current testing version:

http://linux.dell.com/dkms/testing/

### Making Kernel Module RPMs ###

dkms add -m <module> -v <version>
dkms build -m <module> -v <version> -k <kernel1>
dkms build -m <module> -v <version> -k <kernel2>
dkms build -m <module> -v <version> -k <kernel3>
dkms mkrpm -m <module> -v <version> -k <kernel1> -k <kernel2> -k <kernel3>

That's it!  RPM created.

This will use /etc/dkms/template-dkms-mkrpm.spec and create an RPM.  This
RPM will contain a DKMS tarball with the module source and, in this case,
precompiled binaries for the 3 kernels I specified.  When installed on
the end users system, it will load the tarball and install the prebuilts.
If it then sees that the currently running kernel does not have this module
installed, it will kick off a dkms build and dkms install to ensure
that it does. 

Alternatively, if DKMS finds a file /usr/src/<module>-<version>/<module>-dkms-mkrpm.spec,
it will use that spec file instead of the template in /etc/dkms/.  This is useful if you
need to modify the template spec to change the License, etc, etc.

### Making Red Hat Driver Disks ###

1. Download and install at least dkms-1.92 (its a testing versions, bugs may happen)

2. Get a module which has been dkms-ified (has a dkms.conf)
   For example: http://download.qlogic.com/drivers/18277/qla2x00-v6.07.02-1dkms.tgz

3. dkms add -m <module> -v <version>

4. dkms build -m <module> -v <version> -k <kernel1> -a <arch1>
   dkms build -m <module> -v <version> -k <kernel2> -a <arch1>
   dkms build -m <module> -v <version> -k <kernel2> -a <arch2>

5. dkms mkdriverdisk -d redhat2 -m <module> -v <version> --all

That's it.  It will create a driver disk image which can be used during Red Hat install
time to supercede drivers in the kernel.  If you want to stick with the old RH driver
disk format, just specify -d redhat1.  Or, you can specify -d redhat and it will pick
which one to use (with prejudice to the old format) depending on whether you have 
specified multiple different architectures.

Gary Lerhaupt
Dell Linux Development
http://linux.dell.com

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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:04:19 +0300
From: "Vahric MUHTARYAN" <vahric at doruk.net.tr>
Subject: About a.out 
To: "'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200406232212.i5NMCk1s010087 at smtp.doruk.net.tr>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-9"

Hi , 

I try to execute old SCO binary files but I'm getting modprobe: modprobe:
Can't locate module binfmt-0004 error , I checked kernel and I saw that
there is a a.out module support enabled but RedHat can't load this module . 

I don't understand Why ? Any idea ? 

VAHRİC 

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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:09:31 -0400
From: "Ryan Golhar" <ryangolhar at verizon.net>
Subject: RE: linux samba configuration??? and running remote
	applications
To: <bedouglas at earthlink.net>,	"'General Red Hat Linux discussion
	list'" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <000501c4596e$c3239460$0400a8c0 at GOLHARMOBILE1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Use NFS...its simply to set up and administer...

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com
[mailto:redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of bruce
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:52 PM
To: 'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'
Subject: linux samba configuration??? and running remote applications

hi...

i'm in need of a way to access data on the hard drive of one linux box,
from another linux box. i've seen reference to setting up samba as a way
to accomplish this. information that i've seen from google doesn't give
me a good/quick way of setting this up??

does anybody have any pointers/comments on how to set this up, so i can
have multiple systems able to share/access the hard drives on the
various machines...???

also, does anyone have an idea as to how i can run a perl command/app on
machine "A" while i'm on machine "B"?

i have linux rh8.0 with perl 5.8. i also appear to have samba in the
services, although it doesn't appear to be installed.

thanks

-bruce

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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:14:04 -0700
From: "Eucke Warren" <euckew at sierraelectronics.com>
Subject: Libmilter and RH9
To: <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <006101c45977$c7503800$3f01a8c0 at Eucke>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello all!

I am trying to get spamassassin and Vexira's vamilter running as milters for Sendmail.  As you are no doubt aware, Sendmail builds with milter support with RH9.  Spamassassin, as I understand it, is not built in milter form by the install.  Also, the libmilter resources that exist in other builds of Linux are not present under /usr/local/lib.  I am thinking that I need to rpm -e sendmail and spamassassin and build from source a stock sendmail, libmilter and spamassassin build so that I can make this setup work.  Anyone else go down this path?  Suggestions?

Thanks in advance

-Eucke

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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:26:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carl Riches <riches at ms.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Libmilter and RH9
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID:
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0406231622570.29668 at hilbert.ms.washington.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Eucke Warren wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I am trying to get spamassassin and Vexira's vamilter running as milters for Sendmail.  As you are no doubt aware, Sendmail builds with milter support with RH9.  Spamassassin, as I understand it, is not built in milter form by the install.  Also, the libmilter resources that exist in other builds of Linux are not present under /usr/local/lib.  I am thinking that I need to rpm -e sendmail and spamassassin and build from source a stock sendmail, libmilter and spamassassin build so that I can make this setup work.  Anyone else go down this path?  Suggestions?
>

We are using vamilter on our systems RH9 and RHEL AS 3 systems.  We did
not install any special libmilter stuff--libmilter.a is in /usr/lib.
Vamilter is running just using the basic installation instructions at
Central Command's web site.

We're not using spamassassin as a milter; rather it's running as spamd.
Therefore I don't know if you need to do anything special to get it
running as a milter.

Carl

Carl G. Riches
Software Engineer
Department of Mathematics
Box 354350			voice:     206-543-5082 or 206-616-3636
University of Washington	fax:       206-543-0397
Seattle, WA  98195-4350		internet:  riches at ms.washington.edu

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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:26:48 -0500
From: "Cowles, Steve" <steve at stevecowles.com>
Subject: RE: Libmilter and RH9
To: "'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID:
	<90769AF04F76D41186C700A0C90AFC3E320DD7 at defiant.infohiiway.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Eucke Warren wrote:
> Hello all!
> 
> I am trying to get spamassassin and Vexira's vamilter running as
> milters for Sendmail.  As you are no doubt aware, Sendmail builds
> with milter support with RH9.  Spamassassin, as I understand it, is
> not built in milter form by the install.  Also, the libmilter
> resources that exist in other builds of Linux are not present under
> /usr/local/lib.  I am thinking that I need to rpm -e sendmail and
> spamassassin and build from source a stock sendmail, libmilter and
> spamassassin build so that I can make this setup work.  Anyone else
> go down this path?  Suggestions?        
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> -Eucke

Redhat packeges sendmail in 4 different rpm's

sendmail-xxx...rpm
sendmail-docs-xxx...rpm
sendmail-cf-xxx...rpm
sendmail-devel-xxx...rpm

The libararies you need in order to compile a sendmail milter are in the
sendmail-devel... rpm.

Steve Cowles

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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:27:25 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <mark at pdc-racing.net>
Subject: Re: Libmilter and RH9
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <E2A55F53-C56C-11D8-A55B-000A95DA10EE at pdc-racing.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Jun 23, 2004, at 4:26 PM, Carl Riches wrote:
>> I am trying to get spamassassin and Vexira's vamilter running as 
>> milters for Sendmail.  As you are no doubt aware, Sendmail builds 
>> with milter support with RH9.  Spamassassin, as I understand it, is 
>> not built in milter form by the install.  Also, the libmilter 
>> resources that exist in other builds of Linux are not present under 
>> /usr/local/lib.  I am thinking that I need to rpm -e sendmail and 
>> spamassassin and build from source a stock sendmail, libmilter and 
>> spamassassin build so that I can make this setup work.  Anyone else 
>> go down this path?  Suggestions?
>>
>
> We are using vamilter on our systems RH9 and RHEL AS 3 systems.  We did
> not install any special libmilter stuff--libmilter.a is in /usr/lib.
> Vamilter is running just using the basic installation instructions at
> Central Command's web site.

I'm doing the same.  The install was easy and the software is excellent.

Bummer that they basically doubled their license fees during the last 
major virus infestation, though.

- Mark
-----
mark at pdc-racing.net

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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:35:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carl Riches <riches at ms.washington.edu>
Subject: Inheriting group ownership under Red Hat Linux?
To: redhat-list at redhat.com
Message-ID:
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0406231626310.29668 at hilbert.ms.washington.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

We are running into a problem that did not occur under our Unix systems:
inheriting group ownership on files.  The problem is that a file created
in a directory does not inherit the group ownership of the directory.
Rather it gets the group ownership of the user that created the file.

Under our other Unix systems, a file would get the group ownership of the
directory where it was created.

For example, let's say that there is directory:

    drwxrwxr-x    2 root     fugroup        4096 Jun  8 11:45 fubar/

Let's say that user "riches" creates a file in directory fubar/.  The
primary group for user "riches" is "staff", but that user also belongs
to "fugroup" and can write to the fubar/ directory.  The file created in
that directory is owned by "riches:staff", not "riches:fugroup".

This breaks some things, e.g. file sharing between a working group.

Does anyone know how to work around this?  That is, is this a known
problem or do we have some sort of configuration problem?

Thanks,
Carl

Carl G. Riches
Software Engineer
Department of Mathematics
Box 354350			voice:     206-543-5082 or 206-616-3636
University of Washington	fax:       206-543-0397
Seattle, WA  98195-4350		internet:  riches at ms.washington.edu

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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:05:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: alan <alan at clueserver.org>
Subject: Re: Inheriting group ownership under Red Hat Linux?
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0406231603210.7795-100000 at www.fnordora.org>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Carl Riches wrote:

> 
> We are running into a problem that did not occur under our Unix systems:
> inheriting group ownership on files.  The problem is that a file created
> in a directory does not inherit the group ownership of the directory.
> Rather it gets the group ownership of the user that created the file.
> 
> Under our other Unix systems, a file would get the group ownership of the
> directory where it was created.
> 
> For example, let's say that there is directory:
> 
>     drwxrwxr-x    2 root     fugroup        4096 Jun  8 11:45 fubar/
> 
> Let's say that user "riches" creates a file in directory fubar/.  The
> primary group for user "riches" is "staff", but that user also belongs
> to "fugroup" and can write to the fubar/ directory.  The file created in
> that directory is owned by "riches:staff", not "riches:fugroup".
> 
> This breaks some things, e.g. file sharing between a working group.
> 
> Does anyone know how to work around this?  That is, is this a known
> problem or do we have some sort of configuration problem?

Look at the man page for "chmod".  You need to set the sticky bit for 
group on that directory.

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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:20:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carl Riches <riches at ms.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Inheriting group ownership under Red Hat Linux?
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID:
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0406231714320.29668 at hilbert.ms.washington.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, alan wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Carl Riches wrote:
>
> >
> > For example, let's say that there is directory:
> >
> >     drwxrwxr-x    2 root     fugroup        4096 Jun  8 11:45 fubar/
> >
> > Let's say that user "riches" creates a file in directory fubar/.  The
> > primary group for user "riches" is "staff", but that user also belongs
> > to "fugroup" and can write to the fubar/ directory.  The file created in
> > that directory is owned by "riches:staff", not "riches:fugroup".
> >
> > This breaks some things, e.g. file sharing between a working group.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to work around this?  That is, is this a known
> > problem or do we have some sort of configuration problem?
>
> Look at the man page for "chmod".  You need to set the sticky bit for
> group on that directory.
>

We'd thought of that, but this is _not_ needed under other versions of
Unix.  In fact, we discovered the problem when a working group tried to
use a shared directory (via NFS) under Linux and under Unix.  Files
touched by one user under Linux could not be used by any other user,
while work done under Unix did not have this problem.

I just tried your suggestion.  It failed.  I created a directory with me
as the owner and a secondary group to which I belong as the group owner.
I then ran "chmod 1775" on the directory.  Any file I create in that
directory has my primary group as the group owner.

How do I get the files to inherit the group ownership of the directory.

Carl

Carl G. Riches
Software Engineer
Department of Mathematics
Box 354350			voice:     206-543-5082 or 206-616-3636
University of Washington	fax:       206-543-0397
Seattle, WA  98195-4350		internet:  riches at ms.washington.edu

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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:12:46 -0700
From: Pete Nesbitt <pete at linux1.ca>
Subject: Re: Inheriting group ownership under Red Hat Linux?
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200406232012.46456.pete at linux1.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

On June 23, 2004 05:20 pm, Carl Riches wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, alan wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Carl Riches wrote:
> > > For example, let's say that there is directory:
> > >
> > >     drwxrwxr-x    2 root     fugroup        4096 Jun  8 11:45 fubar/
> > >
> > > Let's say that user "riches" creates a file in directory fubar/.  The
> > > primary group for user "riches" is "staff", but that user also belongs
> > > to "fugroup" and can write to the fubar/ directory.  The file created
> > > in that directory is owned by "riches:staff", not "riches:fugroup".
> > >
> > > This breaks some things, e.g. file sharing between a working group.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how to work around this?  That is, is this a known
> > > problem or do we have some sort of configuration problem?
> >
> > Look at the man page for "chmod".  You need to set the sticky bit for
> > group on that directory.
>
> We'd thought of that, but this is _not_ needed under other versions of
> Unix.  In fact, we discovered the problem when a working group tried to
> use a shared directory (via NFS) under Linux and under Unix.  Files
> touched by one user under Linux could not be used by any other user,
> while work done under Unix did not have this problem.
>
> I just tried your suggestion.  It failed.  I created a directory with me
> as the owner and a secondary group to which I belong as the group owner.
> I then ran "chmod 1775" on the directory.  Any file I create in that
> directory has my primary group as the group owner.
>
> How do I get the files to inherit the group ownership of the directory.
>
> Carl
>
> Carl G. Riches
> Software Engineer
> Department of Mathematics
> Box 354350			voice:     206-543-5082 or 206-616-3636
> University of Washington	fax:       206-543-0397
> Seattle, WA  98195-4350		internet:  riches at ms.washington.edu

Hi,
What Unix are you using? Solaris works the same as RH.

Anyway, use "chmod 2775 dir_name"  (not 1775 which sets suid)
That sets the directory to SGID and will result in any files or sub-dirs 
created within  'dir_name' will have the creators owner and the directories 
group. 
If you prefer letters instead of the nuimber permissions, 
it is "chmod g+s dir_name"

You may also want to run over the existing files with
 "chown -R  group_name dir_name"
-- 
Pete Nesbitt, rhce

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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:32:22 -0700
From: Pete Nesbitt <pete at linux1.ca>
Subject: Re: Iptables: port 22 open only for my IP
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200406232032.22057.pete at linux1.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

On June 23, 2004 02:16 am, Khan wrote:
> What will be the best way to put one more Ip adrress to:
>
> # Accept local (192.168.5.0/24) SSH traffic
> $IPT -A INPUT -m state -p tcp --dport 22 ! --state INVALID -s
> 192.168.5.0/24 -j ACCEPT
> $IPT -A OUTPUT -m state -p tcp --sport 22 --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -d
> 192.168.5.0/24 -j ACCEPT
>
> TNX

Hi,
I think you'll need to repeat the entries  because the -s option does not 
accept a list, just a single ip (or host) or a single network/mask entry.
-- 
Pete Nesbitt, rhce

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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:48:34 -0700
From: Pete Nesbitt <pete at linux1.ca>
Subject: Re: Please help as soon as possible
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list at redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200406232048.34534.pete at linux1.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

On June 23, 2004 09:05 am, Nitin wrote:
> I'm talking about server side of my sendmail. I used mail utility of Linux
> to check the mail and it now doesn't show the messages printed once.
> There's an option 'unread' but it can only be used, while you are still in
> the session......
>
> Using Sendmail 8.9.3 on Redhat Linux 7.2.
>
> There's absolutely no messagebox file like there should be in
> /var/spool/mail. So what happened to those messages? are they deleted as
> soon as read ?
>
> Any help or links will b highly appreciated..
>
> Thanks
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MKlinke" <mklinke at axsi.com>
> To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list at redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Please help as soon as possible
>
> > On Wednesday 23 June 2004 03:34, Nitin wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Its really urgent. Hope its easy for someone.
> > >
> > > I was looking for problem on my mail server and printed some mails
> > > out of it (of course for testing) with 'print'. By chance some of
> > > them were important messages, now, how do I mark them unread, so
> > > that they can be downloaded.
> > >
> > > Please help me as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> >
> > You forgot to say which mail user agent/software you are using but a
> > generally held convention is to right-click the message listing and
> > you'll be presented with a list of options that include several
> > different marking options.
> >
> > If this doesn't help you may want to include more information and
> > someone using the same software might be able to better help you.
> >
> > Regards,  Mike Klinke
> >
> >
> > --
> > redhat-list mailing list
> > unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request at redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list

Hi,
If you used "mail' on the server (who's mail did you say you were reading?), 
then if you hit 'd' after reading the message, that would delete it when you 
exit 'mail'. However, If you hit 'n' (next message) or 'q' then those 
messages should still be there. Have a look at 'man mail'. 
-- 
Pete Nesbitt, rhce

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Message: 28
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:52:20 +1200 (NZST)
From: Matthew Poole <matthewp at iserve.co.nz>
Subject: RH9 custom installer boot weirdness
To: redhat-list at redhat.com
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0406241551430.2189 at bigbox.iserve.net.nz>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Following the instructions on 
http://www.techonthenet.com/linux/rh9_update.htm, I've created a custom 
RH9 installer.  However, when I burn the first ISO and boot from it, I get 
presented with the install selection screen (press enter for graphical, 
type "linux text" for text mode, etc etc).  At this point the install 
proceeds to boot from the existing install on the HDD, rather than 
continuing from the CD.

I've had no luck finding anything about this on the 'net, so any 
assistance would be most welcome.

-- 
Matthew Poole

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