RHCE and other certs?

[Waleed Harbi]

I recommend you start first with RHCT then RHCE, all of them based on Labs
not like LPI or Linux+.

On 4/17/07, Terry Zink <tzink at logicworks.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Evan,
>
> Certification's weight seems to be based on the person hiring.  I know
> several past companies that I worked at cared very little for
> certifications.  In fact, I myself find little weight to certs, as I know
> several people who have higher ranking certs than I do, but in reality know
> very little.
>
> I cannot speak for the LPI cert, but I can for the RHCE.  While in my
> opinion it skipped over a great many things that a true engineer should
> know, it was in depth in many other areas.  My opinion is go for it if you
> can, but don't think yourself a star if you get it.  Real experience (be it
> personal or work) is worth far more in my opinion.
>
> That said, I can say my company rewarded me for my efforts in obtaining my
> certification as do many others.  It can mean a large chunk of salary
> difference.
>
> Certs do however help while job hunting.  Having your RHCE will usually
> mean you are picked over someone who does not have an RHCE, unless he has
> far more experience, or blows you out of the water in the phone interview.
>
> Again, it all depends on the mindset of the company and more importantly
> the person looking over the resumes.
>
> Either way, I'm glad I have it and plan to eventually obtain my RHCA as
> well.  The RHCA covers many more areas that I believe the RHCE should have
> included.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Terry Zink
> RHCE
> Logicworks
> ________________________________________
> From: redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com [redhat-list-bounces at redhat.com] On
> Behalf Of Evan Klitzke [evan-lists at eklitzke.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:03 AM
> To: redhat-list at redhat.com
> Subject: RHCE and other certs?
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am a third year undergraduate student (at UC Berkeley) right now, and
> have been using Linux for a couple of years now. Right now I am thinking
> about doing sysadmin work after I graduate.
>
> Last summer I was able to get a full time internship at a startup doing
> system administration work. It went really well, and I have been
> continuing to work there part time this past school year. During that
> time I did a lot of work, including assisting in the migration of our
> server/development environment when the startup was acquired by a much
> larger company. Based on my experiences at this job, I am very confident
> in my technical skills. I've worked with several other Linux sysadmins,
> many of whom who have been doing Unix/Linux system administration for
> most of their careers. While I can't claim to match them in experience
> or knowledge, I feel that a few specific area aside (e.g. database
> things), I have a very strong level of technical knowledge. My
> experiences participating in this and several other mailing lists
> confirms this.
>
> I've looked at a number of job websites, and most system administrator
> positions require several years of experience. The introductory
> positions (i.e. the ones that require essentially no experience) are
> hard to find and are generally not very compelling. I've been thinking
> about getting an LPI or RHCE certification before graduating in the
> hopes that when the time comes I'll be able to get a more interesting
> job. Based on the LPI material I've looked at (including the O'Reilly
> "In A Nutshell" LPI book), I think that I could get a level 2
> certification fairly easy. The RHCE material looks a bit more advanced,
> but I still know a good deal of it, and if I studied I could get one
> before I graduate (next year). That being said, both exams are fairly
> costly for a student: LPI-2 would be four $150 exams, and the RHCE exam
> is $750. Additionally, I'd have to take the RHCE exam again anyway
> (albeit at a lower price) in a few years anyway to keep the
> certification.
>
> My question is: how valuable do you think that these kinds of
> certifications are? I feel like getting them might prove to employers
> that I might not be as green as I appear, when it becomes time to go job
> hunting. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be a lot of demand for
> these certifications, and my impression is that very few people actually
> get them. Are these certifications important, or are they just skipped
> over on resumes?
>
> Thanks a lot!
> Evan Klitzke
>
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