RHCE certification

[Troy]

I'm sorry to derail this mailing list with my personal opinions, this  
really isn't the place for it.


On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Barry Brimer wrote:

> Troy,
>
> Perhaps I am misunderstanding you.  I am curious to know what makes  
> the RHCE the
> "most ridiculous thing I've ever seen".
>
> Barry
>
> Quoting Troy <troya at u.washington.edu>:
>
>> Having said that, if they're paying for it, you might as well take  
>> it.
>> My manager wanted me to take it, and it was the most ridiculous thing
>> I've ever seen. Now, anyone who boasts about the fact that they are
>> RHCE certified, gets put into a very special category in my book.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2008, at 6:24 AM, hike wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:38 AM, mark <m.roth2006 at rcn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Johan Booysen wrote:
>>>>> My employer wants me to look into gaining the RHCE certification.
>>>> <snip>
>>>> Only if your employer is paying. Otherwise, well, we've had
>>>> discussions
>>>> here
>>>> before, and it's not more important than actually knowing/learning
>>>> the job
>>>> on
>>>> your own (books/co-workers/google HOWTOs/etc).
>>>>
>>>>      mark
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>>>
>>>
>>> MGRS are generally NOT technical.
>>> MGRS use certification, training classes as a way to judge their
>>> work-force.
>>>
>>> Certifications help MGRS within the business organization whether
>>> they are
>>> looking for status (I've got all RHCEs on my staff), or quick
>>> approval (all
>>> the engineers recommend), or avoiding nitpicking people (the RHCE
>>> all said
>>> this is the way to go).
>>>
>>> If you have certification, you help your MGR get her/his job
>>> accomplished!
>>>
>>> Certs may mean nothing to a sysadmin but certs are very important to
>>> your
>>> MGR.
>>> Don't you want to help your MGR accomplish his task, show support  
>>> for
>>> her/him, etc.?
>>>
>>> Certs are a game that sysadmin canNOT afford to skip.
>>>
>>> On the plus side, certs will get you jobs and more money.
>>> My Solaris sysadmin Certification brings in at least $10K more a
>>> year.  At
>>> my site, I am the highest paid sysadmin because of my certs (a  
>>> college
>>> degree puts me in the senior category; the certs make me the biggest
>>> earner).  The real UNIX guru, with 5-10 more years of experience and
>>> a much
>>> larger skill set, dreams of making what I make.   (I recommended him
>>> for my
>>> current position; my employer picked little, old, certified me.)
>>>
>>> Skipping certs is a fool's game!
>>>
>>>
>>> I paid for my own RHCT training--class, hotel, car, meals, and took
>>> a week
>>> without pay.  Passed the RHCT test.  Put in on my company's website
>>> form.
>>> Now I am recognized as certified.
>>>
>>> If you need a cert, get it; if you have to pay for it, get it.  It
>>> is your
>>> career not your MGR's or your employer's career.  Just like college,
>>> once
>>> you get your bachelor's, you don't have to get it again and it is a
>>> constatnt source of money.  (The $10K it cost me for college has
>>> provided
>>> $100Ks for me.  Currently, it pays about $10K per year that  
>>> similarily
>>> skilled sysadmins without a backelor's don't get.)
>>>
>>> Being penny wise and pound foolish is also a fool's game!
>>>
>>> Fools give bad advice.
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