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[mark]

katsumi liquer wrote:
> Mark, re: bare metal; what they mean by that these days is just that
> you install ESX as the root/core/main/host operating system for that
> machine, wether it be virtual or physical. It's a very confusing term

I'm not confused. As I keep trying to explain to people, I know what it means -
the thing is that I am *now* running Linux on my home system, which I'm typing
this email on, and want to install it on *that*. I am not about to go out and
buy a new box, or even go out to buy a new hard drive, to install it on.
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> re: ESX & $$$ In general the way it works is that the core enterprise
> VM server component, ie: the ESX kernel is available in a particular
> flavor for free, and they call that flavor ESX 3i. It's free, but it
> has a slightly different capability to matrix and makeup to the
> tradition ESX 3.x server. For one thing it does not have a complete
> userspace setup any more, and by default you can't  really even access
> a shell, altho it does have busybox hidden.
> 
> the reality of the situation is that ESX is an extremely solid and
> robust product, and in either form you will not be disappointed by
> either the capacity it is able to suck from even a mild server
> platform, but also that the stability and management are very
> straight-forward and unified  , at least to the degree that vmware is
> the sole vendor of ESX kernel environments, and the support
> implications that entails.

Right. That's what I've been hearing for a while now, and it seems to me that
once I set it up, creating the VMs and installing o/s's in those VM's, and then
running them, will be pretty much the same as installing ESXi, then installing
o/s's in VMs....
> 
> i support xen and esx, you don't need to look any farther than Amazon
> EC2 for proof that xen is an intense and capable vm kernel, but i can
> only speak for esx in terms of being dependable for years on end in
> production, and enabling us to do fairly complex vlan/vswitch and
> storage configurations and in %99 of the time, taking most if it
> without missing a beat.

As I said, I'd be willing to look at xen, but really don't have any real need
to, since 99.9% of all the sysadmin ads I've seen for 3.5 months, if they
mention virtualization, they say VMware. I think I've seen one? two? ads, in
all that time, that mentioned xen.

	mark