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Re: too many deamons by default - F7 test 2 live cd

On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 08:54 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 13:28 +0000, Andrew Haley wrote:
> > Ralf Corsepius writes:
> > 
> >  > >From my experience (I've used Fedora with both ISDN and with DSL Lite),
> >  > Fedora with ISDN or modem is plain unusable, with "DSL Lite", the
> >  > situation is "bearable", but isn't fun (an openoffice update takes a
> >  > working-day).
> > 
> > So don't do that, then.  Fedora doesn't require anyone to yum update openoffice.
> That isn't a particularly helpful comment.  Telling people to not update
> packages is actually really bad. 
Frankly speaking, this was what I did back then.

I postponed updating and explicitly launched update-jobs it at times, I
was sure not to be interactively sitting in front of the system.

>  Think of security issues, etc.  The
> kernel itself is 16MiB or so, and that can't be a speed download on a
> link like that either.
Now consider having several machines with different archs on a network
being interfaced to the public over a low bandwidth connection.

... The only way I could handle this situation was to selectively mirror
public yum-repos and recreate local ones from them.

> Anyway, there really isn't a nice solution to the problem but blatantly
> telling someone "don't do that" is pretty asinine.
Exactly, you've just noticed the reason for what I previously said.

Also, you now know why the ability to upgrade from one version to
another on-the-fly appears as a (so far missing) key-feature for Fedora
to me (This only downloads those packages which are really needed -
Download on demand - This is way less than what's in the repos or on


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