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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:19:59 +0000
From: Tim Waugh < twaugh redhat com>
Subject: Re: Fedora 7 'issues' (printer)
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: < 1194002399 8852 2 camel cyberelk elk>
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On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 11:15 +0900, Michael Hartley wrote:
>
> Under FC4, it worked ok once I managed to get it installed, but kept
> disappearing, until someone from this list advised me how to tweak the
> OS to make it work.

Not sure what you mean about this.  Can you be more specific?  Perhaps
it's relevant.

It was quite some time ago, but if you search the list archives for  mike40033 samsung, you'll probably find it.

By the way, I didn't upgrade to F7, I did a clean install on a new hard disk.

> Under FC7, it worked for a couple of weeks, but now (after a YUM
> update) the printer seems to be 'not connected - trying again in 30s'

What does 'lpstat -s' say, and what does '/usr/sbin/lpinfo -v' say?

 [hartleym genesis ~]$ lpstat -s
no system default destination
device for Samsung: usb://Samsung/ML-1510_700
[hartleym genesis ~]$ /usr/sbin/lpinfo -v
network socket
network beh
direct hal
direct hpfax
direct hp
network http
network ipp
network lpd
direct parallel:/dev/lp0
direct scsi
serial serial:/dev/ttyS0?baud=115200
serial serial:/dev/ttyS1?baud=115200
network smb


Tim.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:25:16 +0100
From: "Michael Schwendt" < mschwendt gmail com>
Subject: Re: Yum Dependency problem [Solved]
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list redhat com >
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On 02/11/2007, david walcroft <d_j_w46 bigpond net au> wrote:

> >>> Package python-reportlab needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not
> >>> available.
> >>> Package metakit needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not available.
> >>> Package PyRTF needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not available.
> >>> Package python-sqlite2 needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not available.
> >>> Package python-imaging-tk needs python(abi) = 2.4, this is not
> >>> available.

> I have just done another  'yum update' for the third time today and yum
> download 87 updates and cleaned up my dependency problem.
> I notice that If I wait a couple of days dependency problems tend to
> resolve them selves.

You are confused. There have not been any huge updates for this. For
example, "metakit" (see above quote) for stock Fedora 7 is unchanged
since May 23rd and does NOT require python(abi) = 2.4 (which is Fedora
Core 6 and older), but python(abi) = 2.5. A simple upgrade to Fedora 7
would have replaced it with the f7 package already. Same applies to
python-imaging-tk (... and I haven't checked the others).

$ rpm -qpR metakit-2.4.9.6-1.fc7.i386.rpm |grep py
python(abi) = 2.5



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:56:48 +0100
From: Bob Marcan <bob marcan interstudio homeunix net>
Subject: Re: send e-mail without use sendmail
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: < 472B0270 7080000 interstudio homeunix net>
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Ed Greshko wrote:
> Frank Cox wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:05:11 -0500
>> Les Mikesell < lesmikesell gmail com> wrote:
>>
>>> You must have a real domain name to send email.
>> Is there any technical reason (other than "we hate spammers") why email can't
>> be sent to an IP address instead of a domain name?
>>
>> I know that mail sent to joeblow 123 456 789 001 doesn't work, but have never
>> really understood why...
>
> It is call "fault tolerance".  In general, sending to a single IP address is
> has a single point of failure.  If that system is down...email doesn't move.
>  When you send to company.com there is what is known as an MX record that
> returns all the IP addresses that accept email for company.com and weights
> for the sending side to decided who to sent to first and failing that
> second, etc.
>
> Sending to IP addresses doesn't scale and isn't manageable.
>

joeblow [123 456 789 001] does work.

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:07:22 +1030
From: Tim <ignored_mailbox yahoo com au >
Subject: Re: Network install FC7
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: < 1194003442 3138 8 camel suspishus lan cameratim com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Tim:
>> I did a network install of FC7 ages ago, but I can't recall what
>> protocol I used.  Whichever technique it was, I would have copied the
>> files to a directory, I didn't use a loop mount, or serve out the
>> ISO.


John Summerfield:
> You might have copied and then run createrepo. That should work.

No, I didn't do anything like that.  I just can't remember whether I
used HTTP or NFS for the last network install.  My install booted from
the rescue disc to do a network install with the files from a DVD ISO as
files on my hard disc, exactly as copied from it.  The copying process
would have been from a loop mount, but the actual install wasn't.

But anyway, I think that's probably going off on a tangent from the
original poster's query about networking installing.

I do recall having quite some difficulty the first time I tried to
install.  I'd put the install files onto another hard drive, and tried
to do an install from a local hard drive, and despite it being mounted
and readable, the install routine couldn't make use of it.

I installed another box by removing the DVD drive from yet another
computer.

And the last FC7 install was using the rescue CD as the boot drive, and
external drive in a USB box with the DVD ISO on it.

--
(This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's
important to the thread.)

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:51:52 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen tmr com>
Subject: Re: DVD and CD not automounting in F7
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <472B0F58 50800 tmr com>
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Andrea Mastellone wrote:
> Hi,
>
> it is about four months that my fedora box does not automount dvd and
> cd's. It is a F7, with regular updates.
>
> The USB sticks and disks correctly automounts. Running lshal -m, I see
> that USB devices are detected and mounted, but CD and DVD are not
> reported when inserted in the drive (a simple IDE internal DVD/CD writer
>  in a notebook).
>
> By googling, there is a number of cases relative both to hald and
> autofs, and so on, but no one gave me an hint :(
>
> Some similar case and suggestion ? Thanks in advance.
>
Probably you changed the "preferences" in your window manager to turn
off automount. Or some update did it for you. This is one of the first
things I do, since having the system, WM or hal, checking for new media
can create problems with burning.

There was a discussion of this on another list, the mode of the burner
can get changed, streaming can be interrupted, etc.

If you want to enable that behavior, start in Preferences, I don't
remember if it's Hardware or Look&Feel, but it's there, something like
"mounting of media or such."

--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen tmr com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:53:09 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen tmr com>
Subject: Re: Network install FC7
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <472B0FA5 6020704 tmr com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Kam Leo wrote:
> On 11/1/07, Bill Davidsen <davidsen tmr com> wrote:

>> Is there a simple trick or a pointer to valid instructions? I can
>> install FC8 on the machine just fine, but pulling a pre-release
>> distribution over a slow (4Mbit) network is not what I want other than a
>> proof of concept.

> For NFS install you only need to provide access to the iso file. The
> information here,   http://fedoranews.org/dowen/nfsinstall , is a
> little dated but the concepts should hold.
>
The document appears to refer to FC5 and earlier, or maybe FC6, when the
install format changed from "many CDs" to "DVD" it looks as if something
was lost, like the ability to install from your own local network copy.

Thanks for the link, however.

--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen tmr com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:50:14 -0600
From: Karl Larsen <k5di zianet com>
Subject: Re: Fedora 7 'issues' (microphone)
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <472B0EF6 6080801 zianet com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Michael Hartley wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm trying to use Skype beta 1.4.0.99 <http://1.4.0.99/>, under Fedora
> 7. My sound setup is :
> ALSA driver 1.0.14, with card VIA 8235       and chip Realtek ALC650F.
>
> Besides the fact that I often have to go to the mixer to set things up
> properly, I find that even with Mic Boost (+20db) on, the sound is
> just not
> loud enough. People at the other end have trouble hearing, unless I talk
> very loudly.
>
> It was ok under Fedora 4.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions I could try?
>
>
    When you open the Volume control there are two Mixers, and one is
the OSS Mixer. Go to recording and click on the mike below the
Microphone slider. Now turn up the slider and you should be heard just fine.



--

        Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
        Linux User
        #450462   http://counter.li.org.



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:55:08 -0600
From: Karl Larsen <k5di zianet com>
Subject: Re: RPM
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com >
Message-ID: <472B101C 6050902 zianet com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed

Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:13 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
>
>>     OK. The book Maximum RPM does not even mention rpmbuild. For this
>> function I think the early work was done with amanda. I expect most of
>> rpmbuild is in amanda but not easy to check.
>>
>
> What does drive backup software (amanda) have to do with RPM?
>
>
    It is used in the making of rpm files. I didn't read it with care.
But it is in Maximum RPM.




--

        Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
        Linux User
        #450462   http://counter.li.org.



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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:02:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mike C <mike cohler gmail com>
Subject: Re: Network install FC7
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <loom 20071102T120043-82 post gmane org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

One thing that may be very important is to make sure the appropriate ports have
access - in other words don't forget to open the firewall as necessary.

I have been bitten a few times by forgetting that the firewall can stop things
working, not only for nfs but also for wireless cards to work correctly -
depending on how you configure your firewall of course!




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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:17:06 +0100
From: Andrew Kelly < akelly corisweb org>
Subject: Re: RPM
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: < 1194005826 3091 75 camel localhost localdomain>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 05:55 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
> Tim wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:13 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
> >
> >>     OK. The book Maximum RPM does not even mention rpmbuild. For this
> >> function I think the early work was done with amanda. I expect most of
> >> rpmbuild is in amanda but not easy to check.
> >>
> >
> > What does drive backup software (amanda) have to do with RPM?
> >
> >
>     It is used in the making of rpm files. I didn't read it with care.
> But it is in Maximum RPM.

[BEEEP!] Wrong answer.

It is NOT used in the making of rpm files. The Amanda application was
used to provide an example of creating a (more complicated) package.

The first appearance of "Amanda" (page 276 of the printed book, page 367
of the pdf book) is:

        "So, without further ado, let's meet amanda..."

a statement preceded by the paragraph:

"In this chapter, we’ll package a more complex application that will
call on most of RPM’s capabilities. We’ll start with a general overview
of the application and end with a completed package, just as you would
if you were tasked with packaging an application that you’d not seen
before."


Please, Karl, attempt to be a bit less Authoritative when you are
clearly talking through your shirt-sleeve.


Andy



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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:19:35 -0600
From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam sbcglobal net>
Subject: Re: Returning to the OOwrite malfuntion question
To: For users of Fedora < fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1194009575 2847 7 camel cyrus>
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On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:23 -0500, Tom Owens wrote:
> On Thursday 01 November 2007 04:17:06 pm Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > Well that is interesting. One response agreed with me that it does not
> > > work and you say it does. Which leaves me in a quandary.
> >
> > Then it is bugzilla time.
>
> I would be more inclined to lean towards "pilot error".
I don't know what pilot error is supposed to mean but if it means misuse
of OOwrite I disagree. In MS word if you go to printer setup under File
and click on Landscape the document becomes Landscape. If openoffice is
supposed to mirror MS behavior it should have the same functionality.
I am glad to know that Landscape printing is possible but not by the
method that should work. That is a bug in my book.
--
Aaron Konstam <akonstam sbcglobal net>



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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:31:46 +0100
From: info boer-software-en-webservices nl
Subject: Problem finding devel rpm for procps
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <472B18B2 6030608 boer-software-en-webservices nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hey list,

I was trying to compile a program that a friend of mine made, and it
requires the library and headers of procps.
I could find a number of RPM packages from other distributions, as well
as debian packages that also
contain the headers, but I have yet to find a fedora RPM that has
these.My friend runs debian and can compile
this the program just fine. There is a procps-debuginfo package, but it
does not have all the header files I need.

Another thing I noticed (unsure if it's just my setup though), when I
try to compile my program, it does not
find libproc. However, when I look in my /lib directory, I can find
libproc-3.2.7.so. Symlinking this to
/lib/libproc.so does work though.

Anyone a solution for this, or do I have to get the files from another
distro? (I sure hope not)

Regards



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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:34:55 -0700
From: Craig White <craigwhite azapple com>
Subject: Re: Network install FC7
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com >
Message-ID: <1194006895 12175 0 camel lin-workstation azapple com>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 15:55 +1030, Tim wrote:
> Tim:
> >> Which is it, FC 7 or 8?  The subject description is different from the
> >> message, and which one you're actually doing might be able to pinpoint
> >> the problem.
>
> Craig White :
> > solution the same either way.
>
> I'd have thought so, but I was asking in case there was some bug in the
> newest install routine.
>
> > copy iso to system that has httpd running, loop mount in /var/www/html
> > path somewhere...good to go.
> >
> > mkdir /var/www/html/FC8
> > mount -t iso /tmp/F-8-x86_64-DVD.iso /var/www/html/FC8
> >
> > linux method= http://MY_WEB_SERVER/FC8/disc1
>
> It occurred to me that you could have some SELinux issues from that sort
> of thing, if the contexts aren't in place to allow HTTP serving of those
> files.
>
> I did a network install of FC7 ages ago, but I can't recall what
> protocol I used.  Whichever technique it was, I would have copied the
> files to a directory, I didn't use a loop mount, or serve out the ISO.
----
if you serve out as NFS, you don't need to loop mount. You only serve
the iso's themselves via NFS

Craig



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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:37:18 -0500
From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell gmail com>
Subject: Re: send e-mail without use sendmail
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com >
Message-ID: <472B19FE 6040805 gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Bob Marcan wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Frank Cox wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:05:11 -0500
>>> Les Mikesell <lesmikesell gmail com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You must have a real domain name to send email.
>>> Is there any technical reason (other than "we hate spammers") why
>>> email can't
>>> be sent to an IP address instead of a domain name?
>>>
>>> I know that mail sent to joeblow 123 456 789 001 doesn't work, but
>>> have never
>>> really understood why...
>>
>> It is call "fault tolerance".  In general, sending to a single IP
>> address is
>> has a single point of failure.  If that system is down...email doesn't
>> move.
>>  When you send to company.com there is what is known as an MX record that
>> returns all the IP addresses that accept email for company.com and
>> weights
>> for the sending side to decided who to sent to first and failing that
>> second, etc.
>>
>> Sending to IP addresses doesn't scale and isn't manageable.
>>
>
> joeblow [123 456 789 001] does work.


Well it might with a real IP address... None of the octets would be
greater than 255 in a real one - and they don't have leading 0's.

--
   Les Mikesell
    lesmikesell gmail com



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