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Re: The puplet that devoured pirut? (... yum) Bug or feature?



Joe Christy wrote:
<whining>
I use KDE (I know, if I want Fedora to work, I must assimilate to
Gnome), and since I installed (a minimal, since anaconda barfed on
libxslt when I tried to install using the the updates repo as an
additional repo) F8, I have not been able to use either Pirut or yum to
perform an update.
</whining>

Whenever I try to do an update with either of the applications mentioned
above, I get:

[root moby Recover]# yum update
Existing lock /var/run/yum.pid: another copy is running as pid 4642.
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...


Exiting on user cancel.
[root moby Recover]# ps wwuax | egrep "yum|pup|pirut"
root      2774  0.0  0.1 247672 12688 ?        SN   18:06   0:05
/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/sbin/yum-updatesd
root      3275  0.0  0.2 248520 16892 ?        S    18:07   0:00
/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/puplet
root      4642  0.4  1.4 346052 122312 ?       SN   20:06   0:04
/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/libexec/yum-updatesd-helper --check --dbus
root      4713  0.0  0.0  82240   820 pts/3    S+   20:25   0:00 egrep
yum|pup|pirut

and when I run pirut, it pops up a warning panel saying:

Another application is currently running which is accessing software
information.

What is puplet supposed to show me? Is /usr/libexec/yum-updatesd-helper
supposed to do anything perceptible? Does puplet do anything under Gnome?

Is this a bug or a feature?

I know yum-updatesd was a no-op under F7. Is it the same under F8?

	Joe



I had the error also. I stopped the deamon via the GUI services program and still had the error. I eventually went to a terminal su - to root and ran yum -y update. It informed me of a lock file so I removed the lock file and afterward ran yum -y update successfully to update the system. It is either pup or pirut which fails to get rid of the lock file after exiting, I assume pirut (Add/remove programs) is not removing the lock file for yum on exit.

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