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Re: f8: NetworkManager + runlevel 3 problem

Timothy Murphy wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:

And for mobile users in particular, both can come and go. One of the
annoyances with wired networks on laptops, before nm, has been the need
to "ifdown ..,; ifup ...."

I never, ever, need to say ifdown or ifup, whether using NM or not.
My WiFi interface will not come up if it cannot connect,
and if it is connected and the connection is broken
then it comes down of its own accord.
And the same is true of ethernet.

WiFi and ethernet use different devices, with different interfaces
and different MACs, so in my experience, at least,
they don't affect one another in the slightest.

So when exactly did you have to say ifdown in your pre-NM days?

When I took my Acer to work, and when I brought it home. It was then running opensuse 10.0.

Whenever I wanted to change between wire and wireless on the same network.

At home my AP is hidden.



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