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Re: Can Java just shoot me?



>David Boles wrote:
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>> Aaron Konstam wrote:
>>   
>>> On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 22:14 -0500, David Boles wrote:
>>> Tom Horsley wrote:
>>>     
>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:52:20 -0500
>>>>>> David Boles <dgboles gmail com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Duh? This took about 10 seconds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Start here. Follow the prompts. Either one goes to the same page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/29ktre
>>>>>>> https://sdlc4e.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=60B8217CD6937C7D378EAE0D0B30D57A
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Yea, it takes about 10 seconds starting from that page, but how
>>>>>> do you know how to find that page starting from java.sun.com?
>>>>>> There are 15,000 potential paths to follow with no roadsigns :-).
>>>>>> For that matter, how do I know I need a jre rather than a jdk
>>>>>> (I've seen both tossed around on web pages about installing
>>>>>> java).
>>>>>>           
>>> Okay. Here ya go.
>>>
>>> You time *yourself*.
>>>
>>> Start here:
>>>
>>> http://www.sun.com/
>>>
>>> Look for 'Downloads' in the menu in the top of the menu. Hightlight
>>> (mouse over)
>>>
>>> Look at the drop down window and 'see Java JE' (that is what you are
>>> looking for right?) click
>>>
>>>     
>>>> One has to be careful when you are implying that someone is saying
>>>> something less than bright, There is no Java JE under the Download menu.
>>>> It says Java SE. Which is ok, you are allowed to make a typo but one has
>>>> to be more careful in this context.
>>>>       
>>> See "Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 3" (means JRE version 6
>>> update 3) Click)
>>>
>>> The Java SE Runtime Environment (JRE) allows end-users to run Java
>>> applications"  (that is what you want?) click on download
>>>
>>> TaDa  The link I gave you first.
>>>
>>> How long?
>>>
>>> No one minds helping. But it helps you if you *try* before you *fail*
>>> and ask for help.
>>>     
>>
>>
>> The JE was a typo on my account. SE stands for Standard Edition. What he
>> is looking for is the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). Which is on the
>> page that links from the menu. It was obvious that he had no clue about
>> what he was doing  (later self confirmed) and that he did not want to do
>> this (later self confirmed). It was the attitude that got me. The 'I
>> can't do this. It's too hard. So it must be *their* fault' that got to
>> me. I deal with people like that sometimes at work. Second time I fire them.
>>
>> Now reread the last sentence. It starts with "No one minds...
>> - --
>>
>>
>>   David
>>
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>    I had no problem finding the PAGE with the things to d/l. The 
>problem is getting the dam stuff to WORK!! I followed the Install 
>guidance which is hard to read, but I made the directory /usr/java/ 
>which does not exist on F7, and I did the bash file from that directory 
>which put another directory above /usr/java/jre1... which seems to have 
>all the java stuff.
>
>    But Firefox can't find this even though it says it will check 
>/usr/java/. Should I move everything from that jre1... directory to 
>/usr/java/?

If you use the JPackage RPM for the Java version you are installing 
it solves a lot of these problems for you.  And the best part is you 
can use the RPM version.  Also remember that the plugin won't work 
without compat-libstdc++-33.

-- 
Knute Johnson
Molon Labe...



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