[Spacewalk-list] FW: redhat channel in spacewalk

Thu Dec 4 16:21:56 UTC 2014

I would like to ask more on the RH Satellite Starter Pack.  If I were to order that, can I still use it to update Solaris and SuSe as well? 
How is setup and configuration?  Is it as easy as SW?  I've worked in two environments who attempted to stand up Satellite on their own, and both had to have RH professional services come in and do the work because it was to difficult to setup.   
Whats the difference between the "Starter Pack" and a regular Satellite subscription?  I looked at CDW and the price of the "Starter Pack" is only $5,000, but a regular Satellite subscription is over $33,000. That I know I can't afford, but the starter pack is more obtainable.  
I appreciate any feedback.
Thank you.
Daryl
From: waldirio at gmail.com
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:26:17 -0200
To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] FW: redhat channel in spacewalk

Daryl
You can follow the Jean orientation, perfect. ;-), one point is, if you need more the one version (RHEL5, RHEL6, RHEL7 for example), you need configure 3 VM's :-)), because your rhel machine will be subscribed just in one base channel.
If you know how to configure multiples channel in the same OS please share us!
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Daryl Rose <darylrose at outlook.com> wrote:

Waldirio,
I do have RHEL subscriptions, but I'm not ready to set this up just yet.  I'll probably look into it more after the first of the year, so I may ask follow up question's on how to configure SW for RHN.
Thank you.
Daryl

From: waldirio at gmail.com
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 12:01:13 -0200
To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] FW: redhat channel in spacewalk

Daryl
Happy for help. About SW support RHEL, in theory is not supported (so this is a RHN Satellite feature), although technically you can add. About be in compliance, since you share rpm packages to your rhel environment, but to all RHEL's that you have subscription, no problem. What you CANNOT do is, you have 1 rhel subscription, use this account to download rpm files and have 100 rhels registered in your SW receiving packages and updates.
Ps.: I checked this with redhat a long time ago, would be grateful if our Red Hatters friends tell us something about it.
Downloading rpm from redhat, the process is the same, you can configure a local repo and sync them or if you download a rpm package, you can send to channel via rhnpush.
Let me know if you have additional doubts.
Take Care
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Daryl Rose <darylrose at outlook.com> wrote:

Waldirio,
Thank you for the explanation. I understand your explanation.  The reason why I'm looking at Spacewalk is because I don't think that I can afford Satellite.  I'll look into the cost and see if it fits the budget or not.  
Your final comment said that RHEL repo can also be add to Spacewalk, but the documentation say's that SW cannot be used with RHEL repo.  Can you please point me to the older posts that show how to add the RHEL repo?
Thanks
Daryl
From: waldirio at gmail.com
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 20:09:29 -0200
To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] FW: redhat channel in spacewalk

Daryl
Spacewalk is the RHN Satellite Project, so using Spacewalk you don't have support, updates, etc
RHN Satellite is a enterprise product, with support, updates, etc
When you buy the RHN Satellite Subscription, you can buy a "full version" or started pack, full version is, if you have 10 RHEL's, the certificate generated will come with 10 subscriptions, if you have 1k, your subscription will come with 1k subscriptions. There are details about unlimited guests, but we will not talk about it now.
When you install SW, you have a certificate to 20k servers, according bellow:
###<rhn-cert version="0.1">  <rhn-cert-field name="product">SPACEWALK-001</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="owner">Spacewalk Default Organization</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="issued">2007-07-13 00:00:00</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="expires">2018-07-13 00:00:00</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="slots">20000</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="monitoring-slots">20000</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="provisioning-slots">20000</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="virtualization_host">20000</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="virtualization_host_platform">20000</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="satellite-version">spacewalk</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-field name="generation">2</rhn-cert-field>  <rhn-cert-signature>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----Version: GnuPG v1
iEYEABECAAYFAlNg/40ACgkQnnKdrwaUeTIXqwCgmRiTmzFuO7x3bitYPWcJFsZeUPgAn0kTzWo7xUGDpedM0No9nEnWa84P=FTXc-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----</rhn-cert-signature>###
So, to conclude, if you have the opportunity to use RHN Satellite, you can do this, and add another OS's as repo. Pay attention, each server that you add in RHN Satellite, will user a Smart Management addon.
If not, don't worry, you can add rhel repo, according various older posts.
Let me know if the answer is satisfactory! :-)
Take Care
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Daryl Rose <darylrose at outlook.com> wrote:

Waldirio,
I would like to probe this a little further.
Does a person have to have a "Satellite Server" in order to have a Satellite subscription?  Or, can a person get satellite subscriptions separate and use them with Spacewalk?
Thank you
Daryl
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From: Waldirio Manhães Pinheiro <waldirio at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] redhat channel in spacewalk
To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com

Hello Yang
One question, do you have RHEL Subscription ?!, if yes, do you have RHN Satellite subscription ?!, according the quantity of your RHEL environment, you can buy the RHN Satellite subscription to your company and add another OS as repo/channel. The difference is, using RHN Satellite you will use the redhat support, update, erratas, etc.
Check with your redhat sales person about it., you can get RHN Satellite Starter Pack (up to 50 subscriptions), the price is cool! ;-)
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On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:48 PM, YANG LI <yangli at clemson.edu> wrote:
we have different OS such as SLE, RHEL and OL. we would like to manage all our OS patching in one place if possible. is it possible to use spacewalk to get redhat channel?

Thanks,

Yang

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