[Spacewalk-list] Spacewalk on SuSE?

Fri Jul 17 21:07:09 UTC 2015

Dear Daryl

If you make use of  the nu.novell.com REPO's

It should look like this.

https://whatever:youraccountis@nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLES11-SP1-Pool/sle-11-x86_64

If you make Use of SuSE Customer Center and make use of  new generated 
URL's from your registered Systems in SuSE CUstomer Center you dont need 
the nu.novell stuff anymore.

https://updates.suse.com/SUSE/Products/SLE-SERVER/12/x86_64/product?VERYLONGTOKEN

If you want to do yourself an favor, install spacecmd Shell
  Creating Channels and Repos works very quick and is very comfortable.

Few month ago i've written a blog post about this task, unfortunately 
its in german but it might give you an impression how it works.

http://unixhaus.de/index.php?/archives/2502-Spacewalk-Channels-auf-der-Shell-konfigurieren.html

Hope that helps to accomplish your needs.

kind regards.

Bernd Helber

On 17.07.2015 21:46, Daryl Rose wrote:
> Bernd,
> Thanks for the information.
> I looked at doing exactly what you described, however, there is a variable in the URL, $RCE,  that I have no idea what to populate it with.  Also, it appears to me that they also pass the login credentials in the URL, ?credentials=NCCcredentials.
> Do you know how to resolve those two items?
> Thanks
> Daryl
>
>> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:16:05 +0200
>> From: bernd at helber-it-services.com
>> To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
>> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Spacewalk on SuSE?
>>
>> One of my Customers,
>> is using Spacewalk for exactly the same purpose.
>> Patching and Installing CentOS and SLES 11/12
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>> What they do ist.. registering an Client to SuSE Customer Center
>> scc.suse.com
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>> If the client is registered.. they activate the repository in SLES12
>> After the Activation the pull the newly generated REPO URls out the SLES
>> Instance
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>> Create a Software Channel in Spacewalk
>> Create a repository in Spacewalk  add the Repository to the desired
>> Spacewalk Software Channel.
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>> And install the Spacewalk  Agent to the SLES Machine.
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>> In the past it was possible to get all Packages from nu.novell.com
>>
>> SLES in Spacewalk have been a topic on this list you may check out those
>> links
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>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/spacewalk-list/2014-December/msg00133.html
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>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/spacewalk-list/2015-February/msg00057.html
>>
>> Kind regards and happy weekend.
>>
>>
>> Am 17.07.15 um 18:20 schrieb Daryl Rose:
>>> Steven,
>>> Yes, my ultimate goal is to manage both my RHEL and SLES servers with a single package management solution.
>>> I have a large number of both RHEL and SLES servers.  I am looking at a server/package management system that I can manage both environments.  I have experience with previous versions of RH Satellite, and knowing that SW was the upstream source I stood up a SW server as a Proof-of-Concept.  I was able to successfully sync both CentoOS and OpenSuSE repository's and patch demo servers.
>>> In the past couple of months, I've had RH and SuSE demonstrations to see if either one their products would fit with what we're looking for in a package management system.
>>> I was not impressed with RH Satellite 6 demo.  The biggest thing that I need is to be able to patch my servers.  The person doing the demonstration couldn't show me how to patch a system with Satellite 6.  I don't remember for sure, either he wasn't setup for it, or was prepared.  I do remember that I was not happy with the person doing the demonstration.  And.....l specifically requested patch management when I setup the demo.  One thing that I do remember about the demo was; I can only manage RHEL servers with Satellite.  I can't manage my SLES servers.  I would need a separate system to manage my  SLES servers.
>>> I had no prior experience with SuSE Manager prior to the demonstration, but I was really impressed with the product.  I learned during the demo that SW is also the upstream source and SuSE Manager looks and acts just like SW, only a different theme.   The person doing the demonstration was prepared and showed me exactly want I wanted to see, how to patch systems using SuSE Manger.  Also I can manage both RHEL and SLES with SuSE Manger.  In order to get the RHEL packages, I would need a Pulp server registered with RH, then sync RHEL packages to the SuSE Manger.  I successfully setup a Pulp server, and synced the packages to my current CentOS SW server.
>>> Now that I have functioning Pulp and SW servers I got to thinking "how would I get the packages from SuSE?"  I don't know if I can point my SW server to SuSE without it being registered.   My guess is that you can't.
>>> SuSE Manager is a SLES server and would be registered with SuSE.  I thought that I would try putting SW on a SLES server, register it to SuSE to get the SLES packages.  I may not be able to access ALL of the SLES repositories, but that's okay, this is just a PoC server, not an actual production server.  I would then use the Pulp server to pull down RHEL packages and sync them over to the SW server.
>>> <snip>.....but it is possible to use spacewalk running on Centos to manage/deploy SLES, opensuse etc. </snip>
>>> If this is actually possible, how would a person access the SuSE repositories via SW on a CentOS server?   If this is possible, I would like to try that.   I would be much easier than trying to compile SW from scratch on a SLES server.
>>> Thanks
>>> Daryl
>>>
>>> From: Steven.Reed at transport.nsw.gov.au
>>> To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
>>> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 10:56:34 +1000
>>> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Spacewalk on SuSE?
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>>> Hi,
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>>> Have not stood it up on SLES but it is possible to use spacewalk running on Centos to manage/deploy SLES, opensuse etc.  Assuming that’s your end goal.
>>>
>>> There is a bit of messing round with the kickstart/autoyast files to get them to work and you need to modify some parts of cobbler.
>>>
>>> Obviously this is unsupported and if you want to run it in production it may be better to use Suse’s supported product.  Unless you know what you are doing
>>>   and can deal with unexpected issues J
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>>> From: spacewalk-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces at redhat.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Daryl Rose
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>>> Sent: Friday, 17 July 2015 4:32 AM
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>>> To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com
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>>> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Spacewalk on SuSE?
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>>> Yes, I know that SuSE is using Spacewalk as their upstream source.  I had them do a demo for me awhile back.
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>>> How difficult is it to compile SW from source?  All of the documentation is for Red Hat, CentOS and Fedora.  Has anyone else compiled it from source?  What kind of documentation is available?
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>>> Thanks
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>>> Daryl
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>>> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 12:15:03 -0400
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>>> From: prmarino1 at gmail.com
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>>> To: spacewalk-list at redhat.com;
>>> spacewalk-list at redhat.com
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>>> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Spacewalk on SuSE?
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>>> Yes the guys at SuSE lol.
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>>> Seriously it the upstream project for SuSE manager so yes it can be done and you shouldn't expect to see any SuSE specific issues; the one piece of
>>>   bad news is you should not expect the Red Hat rpms to work on SuSE so unless someone know a SuSE specific RPM  repo you may have to compile the server components your self.
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>>> From:
>>> Daryl Rose
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>>> Sent:
>>> Thursday, July 16, 2015 09:55
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>>> To:
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>>> Has anyone stood up Spacewalk on SuSE?
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>>> Thanks
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>>> Daryl
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