In this conversation, host David Zamorano sits down with Manuel Pais, co-author of the influential book "Team Topologies," to discuss what it truly takes to lead a successful team in a rapidly changing world. Pais explains that success isn't just about adopting the newest technology, but about intentionally designing your organization to align with the systems you want to build.

Discover practical ideas for making your leadership more effective, whether you're leading a platform team, building a product, or navigating a major transformation. Pais and David explore the critical difference between focusing on outputs (releasing more features) and outcomes (delivering real value), and why empowering teams to make decisions is essential for scaling and avoiding leadership bottlenecks.

This conversation is a must-watch for tech leads, mid-level managers, and anyone leading a team, offering a clear path to fostering a culture of trust, clarity, and continuous improvement.

• Foundations: An introduction to Team Topologies and how communication structures (Conway's Law) shape your systems.

• Mindset: Shifting from a feature factory (outputs) to a value-driven approach (outcomes), and avoiding the common problem of great tech being hindered by poor processes.

• Strategy: Using evolutionary change, defining clear team boundaries, and measuring success with metrics like flow efficiency and team health.

• Leadership: Understanding how to provide direction while empowering teams to make decisions.